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What 100W guitar amp
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no it doesnt, but my point is the jackson may be the better option for metal style riffs, searing solos and shredding the fretboard etc, but for slower more soulful peices, the lp may be a better option. not so much what you play, but how it comes out sounding from the two different guitars, without having to bugger about with the amp on stage.......just that.:)
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Great thread BTW
Thanks to oldgit.
EDIT: How about we all post some tone from our rig?
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He seems determined to get the VT100, but I've asked him to go into our local shop Red Fish Music and and get their advice. He won't listen to you lot, thinks youre all probably old duffers! Do you want me to give him a clip round the ear
Melodic was my choice of word, I couldn't think of anything more suitable.
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Back to the original point anyway, 50w is about as big as you need to go I reckon, make sure it has a line out to connect to a PA, try loads of different amps, find one that he likes with really easy to replicate settings.
For stage work and studio, I use a Marshal mg15dfx, with effects turned off, all the eqs turned full up, and a Pocket pod using clearly named presets for switching different effects and sounds in..... works fine with pretty much any guitar I put into it. I use that for pretty much everything now cos I'm essentially too lazy not too.
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I knew what y'meant:)
I think:(................ I'm fairly I've misunderstood what somebody meant somewhere along the way anyway
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He won't listen to you lot, thinks youre all probably old duffers!
haha, tell him that my old band was "band of the day" on terrorizer mag's website the other day, maybe he'll listen to me then!
(i'm serious too; a mate has just released a discography CD for us and it seems to be liked amongst the "metallic hardcore" fraternity for some reason)
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No, no, no! Always mic the cab! :o)
Yup - line out is fine for a bass amp, not for a guitar amp.
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"No, no, no! Always mic the cab! :o)"
Nice to have the option though......:)
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I've never mic'd my TM30 - always better coming from the XLR
People seem genuinely amazed when I turn up with my 'handbag' amp and it sounds like 'bonkers central' through the PA.
I always like to sit it on top of the marshall heads that everyone else struggles to get into a venue. And mine sounds infinately more betterer too.
I'm happy to contribute to a guitar rig tone challenge however my tone is in my fingers
Regards
Plum
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Wot plum said.....
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Plumb, when/where can I come and hear/see you play live?
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I'm currently in Calgary until January, I'm happy for you to come round my place any evening or failing that I'll post my blues jam from last year on't you tube again.
I expect our next bout of live playingness will be Feb 2010 Manchester area.
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Plum fingers - '93 Les Paul standard neck and bridge pick up - both tone controls wide open - generic guitar lead - Adrenalinn III setting no 40 no FXs - generic guitar lead - Mackie SRM150 on 1 1/2 - Fuji E900 camera mic - compressed via windows movie maker - then compressed in you tube - then your sound card/speaker combo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0LsUeyz1o
Happy to help
Plum
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you can hear our guys here: http://www.myspace.com/wickeffect
willej - I like that. Which one's you?
I'm a bit more obvious on our pics: http://www.wickeffect.co.uk/page1.htmlPosted 2 years ago # -
Thanks John.
I'm the one holding the flare:
Playing:
To the left of the hot singer:
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I kind of thought so. The others don't look like cyclists
mind you, neither do I these days
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Guitarist looking at fretboard and not jumping...........oh dear
Hot singer? Where?
Looks like plenty of tubes behind you. About 8 too many by my reckoning
Plum
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If you were playing what I was playing at that point you'd be looking at the fretboard and wouldn't be jumping about either! ;o)
The valves you can see aren't mine, they are in the H&K Triamp that my Mesa is on-top of.
Sorry for the hijack Oldgit :o)
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Been impressed by Blackstar amps lately. Really fancy their series one 100W head. There's a knob to change the output anywhere between 10w to 100W. Interesting to compare the two extremes, not as much difference in volume as you might think. Also has a direct out with speaker simulation. Quite pricey but worth a look. I definitely see one in my future.
Best of luck to your lad with his gigs Oldgit, really miss playing live. Good buzzPosted 2 years ago # -
>Quite pricey but worth a look.
That's the problem, it all adds up
- to be fair the VT will cover a lot of bases in one go. I doubt he'll actually be disappointed with the sounds he'll get out of it (I was listening to a bit of Bullet.. on the train earlier, it's more of a dirty rather than overdriven tone from what I heard, and my Tonelab's certainly pretty decent at that).Problem is, take n guitarists and you'll get at least n+1 opinions on amps/guitar/tone..not to mention they can be a fickle bunch about gear (myself included). So trying to get a consistent opinion on a 'better' option is gonna be as successful as herding cats, I suspect.
FWIW...if he thinks we're all a bunch of old fogies, my listening includes Rush, Van Halen, Scorpions, UFO, Mr Big, through to Dream Theater, In Flames, Killswitch Engage, Children of Bodom, Trivium, Opeth, blah blah blah
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>I've never mic'd my TM30 - always better coming from the XLR
The front end of the TM30 is really a 'Sansamp' by the same company (Tech21) and is effectively modelling an amp, but in the analogue domain, rather than done digitally. The feed from the front end - which is what's effectively the XLR output - goes into a linear (ie transistor) amp which drives the cabinet speaker. ie the front end does all the tone generation (in fact, the xlr out probably also has some filtering to emulate the effect of the speaker/cabinet on the frequency response of the whole lot, 'cos it's intended to go strainght to a mixing desk/PA.
(They also do the 'Power Engine' which is the linear amp/cabinet of the TM series amps, but without the Sansamp front end - the idea being that your Tonelab/Pod etc does the amp emulation and the Power Engine is *just* an amplifier with little tone generation)Posted 2 years ago # -
Jond
Which part of the above do you think I don't know
Willej,
If you can't play without looking something is amiss. judging from the 1-4-5 nature of your music I can't imagine too much trouble
Plum
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Which part of the above do you think I don't know
I think Jon was explaining for everyone's benefit.
If you can't play without looking something is amiss.
I'm sorry, the looking/not looking at the fretboard argument is so old. Personally I'd rather play something right and make sure it sounds good than look like an 80s c0ck-rock hero. If that means looking at the fretboard whilst playing the difficult bits then fine.
judging from the 1-4-5 nature of your music I can't imagine too much trouble
That's half the point of our music. It is simple in structure so that it's catchy and accessible. The structure is not what's making me look at the fretboard, at that particular point in that song! :o)
Problem is, take n guitarists and you'll get at least n+1 opinions on amps/guitar/tone..not to mention they can be a fickle bunch about gear (myself included). So trying to get a consistent opinion on a 'better' option is gonna be as successful as herding cats, I suspect.
Spot-on. It's about what each player feels confident with. If your set-up sounds how you want it to and you feel confident playing it then it's the right set-up.
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some bluesy sounds for you, fender tele into marshall jtm60 at about 1/3 volume
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb_XsN3EyosPosted 2 years ago # -
Good stuff Earl!
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Bugger, I've always rated this guy as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4
Now i know he's crap cos he looks at his fretboard whilst playing.
*wonders off totally disillusioned with rock guitar*
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On the Subject of Loud Amps, this from Soundgarden;
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KT: People ue a lot of gear to make it look louder, to fill up the space on the stage. But then you see someone like Neil Young and he's got this small little amp over there. You just need to get your sound and the rest of it is mic'd. You should be able to hear yourself on-stage and that's about it.CC: In terms of getting the best sounds, I've had better luck with less. They have an easier time mixing the band if you're using less gear, because they have less volume from the stage to compete with.
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I've been told to cease and desist.
Plum
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But then you see someone like Neil Young and he's got this small little amp over there.
Having seen him live, the smaller his amp the better! Great songwriter of course, but what a racket!
Are there any singletrackers who HAVEN'T played guitar?Posted 2 years ago # -
I've been told to cease and desist. Plum
Aww, i had high hopes for this thread.
Willej, how long have you been playing guitar? Would you say you have a flare for it?
Beans, Yngwie can't see the fretboard these days for his moobs.
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I've been told to cease and desist.
Plum, take no notice, carry on.
Yngwie can't see the fretboard these days for his moobs
Ha ha, that made me snigger!!!
A flare for it? Eh? Doh!!! Oh, very droll.
SB
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>Yngwie can't see the fretboard these days for his moobs.
Just think how bad they'd be if he *didn't* suck in his cheeks
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guitarhero, yeah, i've still got 5 more of those in my shed
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