linkso if you’re unemployed you can’t vote? what about the retired? or those who have been made redundant? and what happened to VAT, road tax, inheritance tax, fuel tax etc? don’t the unemployed pay these taxes? i can’t believe people are voting for these idiots. next time love, engage brain before speaking

What’s most worrying is that people disillusioned with the mainsteam parties are actually going to vote for these numpties in pretty large numbers. without looking at their absolutely bonkers policies first

I never thought I’d find myself agreeing with Tory central office, but their assertion this morning that UKIP are ‘racist clowns’ seems pretty accurate

Jesus!!! I’ve just read that link

The former chair of Conservative Future has suggested that the unemployed should not be allowed to vote. Tom Bursnall, who recently defected from the Tories to UKIP goes on to suggest that rich people should receive more votes than the poor:

“It would be terribly ‘unfair’ of you to give equal representation rights to the chap who contributes 50 times more than the next person. In the same way as if you own 60% of shares of a company, you’ll get 60% of the voting rights at the Annual General Meeting.” 😯

byline on yesterdays observer, “leading the (ukip)party is like herding cats” from leaked emails

Funnily enough I said the same thing to Mrs C. this very morning!

“Can’t believe I agree with a Tory!”

#edit: Is that for real? As in really real?

They joined my (very short) list of parties which if they get into power I emmigrate some time ago.

It does worry me the rise of UKIP and the BNP.

following this bunch of nut jobs

It does worry me the rise of UKIP and the BNP.

Rise of the BNP? 😆

Did I miss something?

They are the BNP in shiny suits.

Blatant xenophobic policies couched in a public school accent

UK Intolerance Party innit

“Hi, is that Alexndra? We’d like to do a quick photo shoot for the UKIP party.
What should you wear? Oooh, I dunno, something business-like.”

She’s obscuring the ‘nkers’ at the end of that sign

😆

iteresting girl. from her blog.

Birkbeck is a hotbed of communism; half my lecturers, although pleasant, were out and proud Marxists. I was the only (then) Tory in the village. My refusal to condemn the Western world and self flagellate for the sins of my forefathers were met with derision and horror. My audacity to work for a Conservative, the right, the devils, was met with abhorrence. I was shot down in no uncertain terms for questioning the use of “welfare” (for me, I think in terms of Ronald Dworkin, not state) and daring to query whether statist socialism is actually all that good a thing.

Today I received an email from my old university and it sums up finely just why I hated it so much; this left wing commitment to holding diversity and unqualified equality as inherently valuable in themselves. I have no problem with diversity, yet holding it as a value, an end in itself to be pursued, I find strange. Likewise equality; “equality of what?” to quote Amartya Sen. Liberty? Distribution? Before the law?

The email is paraphrased below; needless to say, I will not be taking part.

“Birkbeck Faces: A diversity initiative”

As you are a Birkbeck graduate, we are delighted to invite you to participate in a diversity and equality project about the Birkbeck community. We want to engage people who have influenced the ethos of Birkbeck, have been involved in change to promote diversity; or are role models who reflect the diversity of the Birkbeck community

We would like you to provide a brief written statement, have your photograph taken and be willing to record two quotes from your statement on film.

If you would like to participate, please pick two words from the following list that are meaningful to you in relation to equality and diversity and write a statement of up to 150 words for each word.

The words have arisen from previous projects undertaken in 2011 about tolerance, freedom from discrimination, cultural diversity and identity. Some of these are concepts, some values, whilst some relate to the range of emotions that people have previously shared, all remain powerful.

Trust, Hope, Faith or Belief, Courage, Belonging, Forgiveness, Identify, Challenge, Idenitfy, Refuge, Invisible, Silence, Justice, Prejudice, Separation, Dignity, Dialogue, Respect, Acceptance, Traditions, Loss

We would like you to describe what your chosen words mean to you in the context of equality and diversity. You can discuss your own views and beliefs, talk about someone or something that has shaped these; or discuss your experiences or something you have witnessed.

Arrrgh. The very thought makes my face itch.

She seems like a lovely girl. Certainly very…erm…. ambitious

It would be terribly ‘unfair’ of you to give equal representation rights to the chap who contributes 50 times more than the next person. In the same way as if you own 60% of shares of a company, you’ll get 60% of the voting rights at the Annual General Meeting.”

Wow

I think it would be terribly unfair that you own 60% of the UK when you are only one person.

from the link

Interesting that the student chose to agree that only workers deserve to vote 🙄
It amazes me that “bright” people can just be thisstupid, heartless and so lacking in morals/ any sense of decency or fair play.

Still at least they seem to be developing some policies beyond hating Europe and immigrants …which group is next for the hate list as we have now added the unemployed and cyclists..pensioners they do **** all really dont they ?

Likewise equality; “equality of what?”

I think we should horribly opress her till she gets the point ….perhaps make her give up her “career” and stay at home having babies …does she not know her place ? 🙄

Ps why did we treat her equally like a man and educate her what were we thinking of?

They are the BNP in shiny suits.
Blatant xenophobic policies couched in a public school accent

UKIP isn’t posh enough for that. That’s the point: they think they’re better than the BNP but they’re not accepted by the tofferarchy.

@binners ‘kers – another top post 😀

Yes the fact that UKIP is a growing presence shows how wrong the other parties are getting things. UKIP could certainly hand some seats to the Lib Dems.

Yes the fact that UKIP is a growing presence shows how wrong the other parties are getting things.

Sad but very true 😥

I have no problem with diversity, yet holding it as a value, an end in itself to be pursued, I find strange.

Interesting that she should think that, and it’s quite a modern point of view. She doesn’t seem to see any divisions in society so she thinks that policies encouraging diversity are artificial.

However, the real point about diversity in organisations is that certain sectors of society are in fact under-represented. I think that the diversity movement is trying to redress that, rather than swing it the other way. Or at least, ensure that as many groups as possible are being represented.

It may be that she doesn’t see any minority grouping as significant in modern Britain. Reminds me of the South Park episode about the town flag.

PS why does Farage have his arm around her in that pic? Sums up her appeal to the party I think.

people disillusioned with the mainsteam parties are actually going to vote for these numpties in pretty large numbers

well, they won’t really. but if people keep trotting out this line and the media repeating it and telling the nation what they should be thinking, then they might.
the public wants what the public gets (told they want).

Let UKIP be more ridiculous, although some sheep will follow it reduces their credibility to anyone with half a brain. Here’s a comment wot I found:

i would rather give a fit bird a chance to stuff up the? country. she cant do a worse job than the shower of the last 20years. at least she has some ornamental value. give her a chance

As someone who feels strongly in the potential for education to improve society it saddens me that she has made it this far through the education system and is so narrow minded. Bah! (I know, I know. Education doesn’t make you nice)

More crazy attitudes from UKIP here
Not sure if this has been posted in another thread.

Whislt ever you have **** ruling a country, there will always be other **** wanting to replace them.

I’m interested to see how UKIP get on in the north. It seems to me that they represent the views of the more bonkers section of the Tory party, who only seem to exist in the home counties. Where they spend their time bemoaning the influence of metropolitan types (ie: anyone who doesn’t own a horse) gayers and trade unionists, while having incestuous relationships to produce further hyphenated names

But they say they’re apparently taking votes from all parties so are contesting seats in Manchester. Even though the share of the vote the tories get in these constituencies tends to be in single figures. I’d be amazed if UKIP get more than a handful of votes.

They are the BNP in shiny suits.

There’s a study I read a digest off some time ago (no idea where, sorry), the gist of which was that it’s a good thing when the far right start getting a few votes, because then they put their cheap suits on and start trying to come across as “legitimate” politicians, rather than putting their boots of many laces on and going out to kick the crap out of anyone with dark skin or a foreign accent.

Unfortunately, it all goes around and comes around, the Nick Griffins of this world don’t take long before they’re rumbled as the scumbags they are, and it’s back to mindless violence.

The gist of it was, random acts of racist violence reduce at the times when the far right are at least treated with some seriousness on the political stage.

So, vote BNP to reduce racist violence!!!

Yes the fact that UKIP is a growing presence shows how wrong the other parties are getting things.

no, it shows how lightly the british electorate might be taking the seriousness of electing a government if they’re prepared to vote for a party merely because they promise to alleviate the things that annoy them rather than because that party has a well thought out and practical agenda for running the country should they be elected.

WTF is “unqualified equality” ? (apart from nonsense double-speak)

Is that equality for people that didn’t go to Oxford ?

Terrifying….

I’m interested to see how UKIP get on in the north. It seems to me that they represent the views of the more bonkers section of the Tory party, who only seem to exist in the home counties.

I’m beginning to realise that I must be frightfully toffee-nosed, as UKIP members have always come across as terribly common to me. Anyway, must rush, Binky and Bunty want to fix up that Post-It export deal for Honkers before we head out to Langham’s.

I’m interested to see how UKIP get on in the north. It seems to me that they represent the views of the more bonkers section of the Tory party, who only seem to exist in the home counties.

If Wikipedia is to believed, UKIP is more successful in the north than the south. Which doesn’t particularly surprise me, the home counties have (generally) lower unemployment and higher wealth, they’re not the sort of place you’d expect a protest vote.