3 in one hotel, 1 at reception.
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Travellodge employs murderers
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Posted 9 months ago #
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eh?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-12205272
Apparently it's only done after a rigorous risk assessment.
The women were involved in the deaths of either a husband, partner or parent
So perhaps you should worry if you are in the habit of routinely physically abusing the staff at the hotels you frequent?
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It's ok - they passed a "rigorous risk assessment".
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why not? people change for the better sometimes dont you know
i wont break patient confidentiality by tell you anything specific but there are a lot of mentally unwell murderers, rapists and the like out there, living in the community, working in charity shops, holding down jobs, drinking in the same pubs as you.
sleep well x
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I'm all for it actually, just wondered how much frothing it might generate.
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average stay at broadmoor is 4-6 years i think i read a couple of days ago (if anybody read the same article please correct me as it might take me a while to dig it up again at work), patients then tend to move onto medium secure forensic units and start building up un-escorted community leave, then onto pre-discharge units where the idea is to give them as much unescorted leave as possible and let them work towards coping with independence and 'real-life' and its risks/temptations again. then providing they have the patience and self-control to jump through every hoop put in front of them, any medication is effective and there are huge amounts of experienced qualified professionals in agreement about their current risk and progress...they move into the community.
often working in charity shops and getting involved with community projects etc is initiated before they leave the pre-discharge unit, so a fair amount of them are out and about in the community day-to-day and working with the public before the ministry of justice has made a final decision that they're safe enough to actually move out into the community away from the 'secure' setting. this is how if often works for the mentally unwell ones, and the amount of risk assessments, tribunals, parole hearings, psychological work and assessments they have to get through is intense. no decision is taken lightly and the public's safety is considered at all times.
good on travelodge for employing the ladies mentioned in the article, i get the feeling this press attention wont help the work schemes by putting off employers though
it's hard enough finding work opportunities without the press attention! throw in the mental illness factor and thanks to stories like this hitting the press and the reaction it will likely gain, my jobs just got that little bit harder!
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The women in question are from Askham Grange Prison, an open prison in a small village near York.
I went to primary school opposite it and my mum used to be a prison visitor there; when I was a kid we used to take prisoners close to release out with us on a weekend to the seaside (murderers inc) as part of their rehab.
My mum could tell you horrific stories about how some of these women end up killing their partners/parents and they all involve years of physical/sexual abuse such as husbands pouring pans of red hot chip fat on their wives legs while they slept.
These women are not a threat to society
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Meh....at least they aren't stealing bottles of water from Lidl.
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Yes it can be right, some people really do have small minds.
It's a credit to a company that has a policy employing former prisoners.Posted 9 months ago # -
women killers - killers of women
female killers - women who killedThe headline sounds misleading.
As above probably mitigating circumstances and not convicted of murder, and of no danger to anyone not causing them years of abuse. Although with that in mind the hotel business may not be the best place for them.
Of course the BBC doesn't do sensationalist journalism, so the story must have merit
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These women are PROBABLY not a threat to society
FIFY
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I'll remember to be nice to the staff next time I stay there!
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Isn't this how the prison system is supposed to work?
Although with that in mind the hotel business may not be the best place for them.
I think you'll be OK as long as you don't try anything on with them, only husbands and partners need worry.Posted 9 months ago # -
Although with that in mind the hotel business may not be the best place for them.
You could be right there
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I hope this 'journalism' doesnt make the company do a U-turn.
It is in Yorkshire though so as long as the hotel is cheap then it won't matter
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Sounds like a fantastic scheme. Hope it carries on.
Some people *do* deserve a second chance in life.
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They probably feel right at home in the travelodge, I wonder if they leave the doors open when they clean the rooms?
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LOL @ djg...
I was pretty disappointed at the piece on Today that inspired this thread - woman interviewing Travelodge CEO after it's profits results or something, kept on pressing him as to whether it was safe to employ thezse women, could customers sleep at night etc.
Once a sentence is spent ex-cons should be given chances IMO, particularly in these circumstances, but also in worse.
Same as "cheating" sportsmen - once punishment is served, let them back.
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BenHouldsworth's post made me well up. I guess the abusers were probably subject to an awful upbringing too - horrifying.
I have a friend who is a psychologist at a women's prison too. I've absolutely no idea how she manages to deal with some of the things she's heard and keep them out of her head during non-work time.
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