[Closed] Training and diet talk...

So essentially, Phil is on the Slimfast plan?

Target 9 Stone 😆

Jamie - it'd seem so.. he's gotta look perdy in that dress so I think it's ok in this instance.

A roast...At work?

Don't believe you 😐 Explain please

lol target is to stay my current weight but reduce love handle/belly fat and maintain current muscles.

at my work i have two ovens at my disposal in a fully fitted kitchen, so roasts are one of the simplest things to make, even easier if you chop the veg to the right sizes to they all take the same amount of time to cook 🙂

Ah right, that's cheating. My work had a sink and a microwave. 😆

Honestly I wouldn't have wanted to cook food in it either.

The Southern Yeti - Member
Black filter or cafetiere stuff only.

1 on the way to gym.
1 straight after with porridge.
1 at about 10/ half past
Sometimes another before I go at lunch.
1 after lunch
1 now.
Occasionally another before I leave work, depending on how tired I am.

So 5 a day, sometimes 7.

'kinell - no wonder you can do so much exercise.

I've got colleagues like that, including one who worked out he spend £80 a week on coffees from the cafe.

[i]Bear fighting is some of the best training in itself. [/i]

How can we tell ?.
I'd have thought that all who fight bear, end up becoming bear poo.
No ?.

[i]one coffee in the morning, 2 spoonfulls of coffee, 1 sugar, 50%water and 50% skimmed milk.
then gym/spinning = 750ml water
then drive to work = 600ml cookies and cream protein shake
then work = 1.5ltr water with 400ml-ish of no added sugar, not from concentrate healthy living OJ added in, tin of tuna, [b]4 eggs[/b][/i] 😯
[i]then home = dinner or eccles cakes.

nom nom vom.
[/i]

Ok, then today:

Up at 5, out to work.
10:45am gym.
Bike for 30 mins.
Deadlifts.
Free weights
Lunch at 1:00pm.
Chicken, Tuna and an Scotch egg.
Coffee on the go now.

Not sure what dinner will be.
Maybe wild alaskan salmon, spinach salad.
But alternatively, could be some of that curry meal BagStard posted recently.

I have discovered that eggs, err, slow thing down for me, [u]considerably[/u].
So I have to cut back on them, cept for Scotch Eggs, of course...

What has life come to, when you are owned by the scotch egg in your fridge.
😕

Free coffee at work, discounted at the gym... I'd cut down in an 'instant' if I had to pay.

Solo - where's the veg??

[i]who worked out he spend £80 a week on coffees from the cafe[/i]
Flippin 😯

[i]I'd cut down in an 'instant' if I had to pay[/i]
😆

I'll get your coat.

Oh, wait, this is your thread.

Doh !.

dont worry solo

i, for one

only had 3 eggs today
with my spaghetti and
cover your ears

bread.

i will visit a friend afterwork
if he's nice enough i'll
drink cups of tea with sugar in them
and milk

soy milk because he's weird

x

[i]Solo - where's the veg?? [/i]

[i]Not sure what dinner will be.
Maybe wild alaskan salmon, [b]spinach salad[/b].
But alternatively, could be some of that curry meal BagStard posted recently[/i]

How much spinach are you going to eat in one sitting though??

Perhaps if you ate some fruit the eggs wouldn't give you such, errrr...

😉

i, for one
only had 3 eggs today
with my spaghetti and
cover your ears
bread.
i will visit a friend afterwork
if he's nice enough i'll
drink cups of tea with sugar in them
and milk
soy milk because he's weird
x

Awesome.

despite the 3 eggs 5 days a week i dont find they cause me any digestive slowing, i think its the protein shake that balances them out, if not that then the 8 eccles cakes a week (2 a day on the weekends, one a day monday-thursday. friday is a sad day)

[i]dont worry solo
i, for one
only had 3 eggs today
with my spaghetti and
cover your ears
bread.
i will visit a friend afterwork
if he's nice enough i'll
drink cups of tea with sugar in them
and milk
soy milk because he's weird
x
[/i]

Phil.

You gotta let that shit go.
Its a new day.
😉

As for your bread and milk.

You only have to decide which you like more.
Fat or happy ?.
😉

I'm fat and happy.

[i]How much spinach are you going to eat in one sitting though??

Perhaps if you ate some fruit the eggs wouldn't give you such, errrr...
[/i]

TSY.
Its a Salad. So its Spinach, peppers, toms, spring onions, peas if I fancy, mushrooms, yadda, yadda.
All with a large portion of omega 3 rich wild fish.
Which I hope will assist the few brain cells I possess.

As of last night, there is no red wine in the flat.
So its all looking like a house point for Solo, today.

😀 the sugar and milk in my morning coffee isn't making or keeping me fat. i'm down to 78kg if i bothered to weight myself naked or before my morning coffee (just under 79kg in gym clothes and trainers, holding my iPod touch and full of coffee)

oh and my muscles are making wimmin orgasm just by knowing i'm in the same postcode as them.

iSexy

[i]I'm fat and happy.[/i]

Yes, may be.
But you're not Manorexic, are you.

Jamie - I reckon you're as not fat as 40DD.

40DD ate ginger cookies that weren't iDiet compatible yesterday, he's a right chubbyfunster that one!

Phil.
I aint telling you what makes you fat.
You mentioned bread and milk like you think they're an issue ?.
Anyway, in light of your most recent pronouncement...

[i]iSexy [/i]

I'd say mission complete...

**Spontaneuos outbreak of applause**
**wipes something from eye**

[i]Jamie - I reckon you're as not fat as 40DD.[/i]

Whats that ?, a TV channel.

I'm fat and happy.

milk is every morning
bread, well thats
probably about 8 slices per

week!

i figure if i keep breaking
the iDave rules

then when i reach my target
of making every
single woman in the UK pregnant
just by being alive, i can

start to treat myself again and the weight wont
come piling back on, i hope

x

I think you need more Zinc in your diet Philly.

Do you want to try some of my ZincShake??

[i]milk is every morning
bread, well thats
probably about 8 slices per
week!
i figure if i keep breaking
the iDave rules
then when i reach my target
of making every
single woman in the UK pregnant
just by being alive, i can
start to treat myself again and the weight wont
come piling back on, i hope
[/i]

Phil.
Nice posting format, stylish....
😉

As for that ^^^^

Well, I'd say all thanks to one Mr iDave.
A little knowledge may have served us all, well.
😀

EDIT:
[i]probably about 8 slices per
week![/i]

hardly worth bothering with then....
😉

[i]Do you want to try some of my ZincShake?? [/i]

Careful, DD was reported for sailing only slightly closer to the wind...
😉

Well, I've finally managed to kinda get the iDave to work for me, but I've basically had to start some pretty robust calorie restriction in order to lose any weight. Drinking plenty of water, running, riding, being gosh darn strict on the no simple carbs. Ho Hum.

TBF my traditional 'lay off the cake and beer and ride loads' strategy was much less of a hassle and I was marginally less grumpy about it too.

ADH.

I can't see the gun that must be held to your head.
Just turn to the right a bit.

Can you see it now?

[img] [/img]

😆

Yeap, got it now, thanks.

How [i]heavy[/i] are you ?.

87kg, down from 92kg after 6 weeks of iDaving. That does include a 4-week lull in which diddly squat happened. I dunno if I was putting muscle mass back on or there were some water retention issues. We'll see.

Well I did the first day of C25k today and it was ok, right knee and hip feel a bit achey. Certainly feels like a better workout than 20 minutes of cycling.

a bit achey

Achey? Hurty?

Not on my watch... be off with you.

If you must... say it aches a bit.

[i]Certainly feels like a better workout than 20 minutes of cycling[/i]

Please excuse my ignorance.
But what have you done instead of ride a bike ?.

[i]87kg, down from 92kg after 6 weeks of iDaving[/i]
I'd call that a result.
So what is the issue with iDave diet ?.

[i]Achey? Hurty?

Not on my watch... be off with you.

If you must... say it aches a bit.
[/i]

Ooo !.
Check the English police !.

I feel right honoured now.

I'd call that a result.
So what is the issue with iDave diet ?.

The issue is that stringent observance should result in around 2kg loss per week, not nil loss. Its also [i]not supposed[/i] to require calorie restriction or high activity levels. Only for me, it seems to need both ...

I have often wondered if I am a sub-clinical diabetic or something, based on my bodies occassionally odd responses to being fed. This would account for the iDave ineffectitude as my body won't react normally to low GI tactics. Not sure I want to open that pandora's box just yet.

C25k

Couch to 5k says Google.

ADH.

Well, if it helps,and at the risk of being stomped by iDave.
I'd suggest that the 2Kg in a week, would be the early stages.
As body weight reduces, the propensity to shed more, tapers, ime.
Until we hit about 12-15 percent BF.

Just what is a typical ADH eating day ?, and what does the day off look like ?.

some people lose 2kg a week, some 4, some 1, some none, but all lose over time until they settle around 12-15% BF

[i]Couch to 5k says Google[/i]

Is completely confused now.
I've never heard of such things.

Are we just talking about.... Running **shudders**

Is Tom just saying he went for a run instead of riding his bike ?.
(seriously)

Cheers iDave, I'll keep soldiering on and see how things pan out.

Solo, given when I was racing a fair amount 10 years ago I was 70kg, I'd say I have a way to go yet before the taper should kick in!

The day off isn't mad, just some bread, milk, fruit and cake. Maybe a beer or two. The stuff I miss.

Typical day, well in the lull period I was having:

brekkie: scrambled egg, 2x100% meat chipolatas or lean bacon
lunch: undressed salad or leftovers or home-made hummus and gram-flour flatbreads
tea: something iDave compliant, made in huge quantities, with huge piles of beans, lentils and veg in order to try and stop me feeling the need for sweet things (those this NEVER works, even if I eat so much I feel sick).

Now I've cut out brekkie as I never used to bother with it, and I'm restricting portion size to about 70% RDA based on some back-of-fag-packet calcs I've done.

Sunday day-off: cereal and milk/long road ride/burger/cherry cake/lamb curry & rice.

Yesterday: black coffee&water/leftover homemade dhal and butter beans/stir-fry veg and oven-baked salmon

Today: black coffee&water/tomatos, coleslaw and hummus/TBC lump of lean meat and huge stack of veg.

😀 Sorry TSY. Yes I went for a run instead of riding my bike because I get a bit bored of road after a while. And my roadie mate said that running helped him out for stamina on the road bike, so I thought I'd try it.