20lbs IIRC. My Stumpjumper Carbon with Stan's Race 7000, SID WC, Magura Marta SLs, Extralite 2x9 etc comes in at 19lbs and its going to be damn hard to get it much lighter. I think 21lbs is optimistic.
Doesn't stop it from being a nice bike and the Ti frame should give a nice zingy ride. Tim - I'd ditch that RaceFace Evolve crank when you get a chance.
is your stem quite long?
Yeah been toting with the idea of ditching the cranks but can't afford xtr... They are 900gs Inc bb can't Afford better.
The frame weighs 1350 the wheels 1450 the forks 1600 and weighed all the bits too, and have allowed extra for grease etc, so it should weigh as I stated unless my local post offices digital scales are wrong 
20lbs IIRC. My Stumpjumper Carbon with Stan's Race 7000, SID WC, Magura Marta SLs, Extralite 2x9 etc comes in at 19lbs and its going to be damn hard to get it much lighter. I think 21lbs is optimistic.
Agreed. More likely to be similar in weight to my Zion - it's 23lbs (according to my scales) with Float 80RLT's, carbon bars, Hope/X717 wheels, mostly XT drivetrain, Conti Speed King Supersonics, M520 pedals etc.
eh?
i took all the bits, even cables and outers down to my local postoffice, used their scales which are the most accurate i could find (this is sadly anal i know, but hey i have the time)
added all the bits weights together, and then added 50gs for grease, and chain oil etc, and the resulting weights are above....
why are they wrong? those wheels are silly light with their aerolight spokes....
EDIT morrisons have 2 for 1 on becks at the mo this is all the justification a chubby guy needs to get inot a my bike is lighter than yours argument btw
epicsteve
More likely to be similar in weight to my Zion
Mine is a bit like a Zion. Only I didn't buy it from VN
I've gone back to risers since this post plus a Raceface post with a bit more layback. Also got a set of American Classic wheels for it, but SWMBO won't let me have them until my birthday next weekend.
Opps sorry. Thought you meant zion as in the make not the model. 
Hmm - this place looks familiar
I have lots of pictures taken at that spot - it's an excuse for spending some time getting my breath back!
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