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That Focus RS
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Posted 2 years ago #
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The RS might be a fun car to drive but having had one at work, the quality of it is dreadful, the bodykit is a different colour to the body, it fits where it touches, wouldn't give you £10 for one, your local back street body shop could do a better job of the body kit and what is it with using gloss black on the mouth, diffuser and spoiler, will be matt in next to no time.
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both look like fun but I'd rather have the focus. If I pay 25k for a car it had better be pleasant to be in as well as being quick. I must be getting old though, if a lad in an RS pulled alongside me at the lights and proudly announced he could do 0-60 in 5.5 seconds or whatever it is, I would stroke my car and *more* proudly announce that it could do 55mpg.
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They're a terrific car but the word is Ford dealers etc are buying them for themselves at the moment so scarce as hen's teeth.
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I was told there was zero chance of discount, then offered a pretty rubbish trade-in value on my Golf, I think the enthusiasts are out in force which is to be expected after the shambles that was the last RS.
I'm pretty sure I read that VW had ditched the 4WD on the top of the range Golf? They can obviously do it given that they have the S3, but they seem to have been scared off by the recession. If the Golf is FWD it should still handle very nicely, the GTI is a long way ahead of the current Focus ST.
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They're a terrific car but the word is Ford dealers etc are buying them for themselves at the moment so scarce as hen's teeth.
You meant to say "creating a demand"...
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the renault will break before the ford.. aye.
did top gear test the strength and reliability of the cars? no.they dont care about that,they want to know about performance. they went on track and tested them to see what can go from start to finish around the track the fastest.the most unreliable,lightest,best cornering car won.
why would folk look at the next best hothatch because its got more boot space,more horsepower or more gubbins that make it slower than the renault? you buy a tdi estate with all the gubbins for that.or is it the looks of the car and the RS badge that does it for you?
also, some folk on here seem to think a car needs all wheels driving it to make it go fast and that anything with over a certain amount of bhp in fwd cant possibly work.what did they say about the megane around the nur? you could down a cup of tea and a slice of cake by the time that new focus finished a lap.. and thats with a boot full of tubular steel too!
picture todays wrc rallying.. and consider the power they have going to all 4 wheels. Now watch this and consider how fast a wrc car of today would be tackling some of these routes.5 mins 20 seconds is quite good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okj8aHcn_Ywbut my fav clip is at 2 mins 53/Grasse aplin 94. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5v-OhjiBDg
that "girls" car would put a lot of todays wrc cars to shame.
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"What RWD "Sports Car" can you get new for £25k that has the performance, kit/equipment levels, praticality and reliabilty (modern fords are bloody good), not much I'll wager."
Your missing the point of a rwd car, but making the point of the type of people who want to buy cars like the Focus.
Cars like this have massive amounts of grip and will get you A-B bloody quick, but they are not much fun, and you can't exploit your own skills safely on the road.
Having driven a rally prepared Impreza it was the fastst thing A-B I have ever driven on the road, but I could see over time it would get dull because I would never come close to exploiting its full capability due massive levels of grip and the fact it isnt safe to drive it quick, and I didnt have the level of skill to take it to its limit (not many would).
If you want real fun in a car on the road, get some thing like an MX5 or Elise, you will learn much more about car control and in the end have much more fun!
However if you want a car that makes you feel like a driving god (or makes you feel like you have a big penis) a car like the Focus, yes you will get from A-B bloody quick, but ultimately it wont be as much fun.
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Dunc you can just say you prefer RWD, you don't have to bring genitalia into it.
Having the same wheels steering, doing the majority of the braking, and putting the power down, brings its own challenge. The major factor in making a car rewarding on good roads is driver feedback, most of the cars mentioned don't need much more than 200bhp and would be less enjoyable with 4WD
Martin the most important difference between the R26 and the RS is rear seats. If you're restricting yourself to two seats a whole raft of other cars come into consideration. The Megane is just as desirable as a drivers car but if you have kids to consider or a wife to keep happy it isn't an option.
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then just buy a r26 then. S'pose main prob bout both cars is that their old hat as soon as their formed. The megane has just brought our the new megane shape, and the new focus will be along soon.Ford missed a trick with the RS by bringing it out so late. The should stick to their original recipe of race them 1 day, build them the next
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If you don't like the "Halfords Ram-raid" RS, you can get an ST and give it to Mountune. For £1150 they will make it as fast as the RS, and it won't invalidate the warranty. Plus you'll save a few grand.
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