Any good as a all round trail bike or more for the rowdy crowd.Some build pics would be nice.

Good all round. Not the best for the really rowdy stuff unless you’re a lot smoother than I am. 4ft drops feel a little harsh.

I’m not entirely convinced they’re as slack as claimed on the web site, not that I’ve measured it.

Edit: I should add that I really like mine and use it far more than my FS bike.

I like the geometry but not the ride feel or the weight… So I slackened a C456 off by 2 degrees for similiar but less anvilly results. Lovely.

I ran mine as a trail bike last summer. With 130 forks, dropper post and 1×9 set up, it was great for trail centres, though a bit weighty on the ups (31lbs).

Its now built into a fully ridged winter single speed. With carbon forks, cheap alloy post and 1×1 set up, its great for winter mud pluggin and such like, 25lbs.

I’ve seen one raced at last years UCI 4cross, proving you can build it into just about anything with in reason

A good budget do it all frame