My wife has just got another speeding penalty notice – but its from early May – I heard that they had to issue them out within a certain time period otherwise they would not be valid. Does anyone know anything about this?

She has to got to a disciplinary meeting late this afternoon as this takes he to 12 points now and she needs her licence fore work.

This thread's going to be a big 'un!

If she needs her licence for work, what's she doing speeding?

You could take the points for her 😉

Is it a lease car or is she the registered owner?

she could learn to drive at the speed limit perhaps this is the way to teachher …sorry if that sounds harsh but she does not seem to be learning a lesson here

I'd request a speeding exemption from the magistrate, she's clearly very busy and every second when she's not doing business is a tangible loss t the company. I'm sure they'll understand. 🙂

(I have 3 points for speeding, on the way to work, past the same static speed camera I drove past twice a day for three years, a day before the council turned all the speed cameras off, because life does that sort of thing to me, oh and I'm a ****)

No time limit as far as i'm aware

The trick is to not get caught…..

Now in NZ they hide the **** things! I learn't the hard way 🙁 I did however do a bit of a dukes of hazard style hiding down a side road till the cop, who had turned round to chase me, had gone.

What Junkyard said.

IIRC, 5 O have to issue the paper within 14 days…..

she does not seem to be learning a lesson here

Have to agree there, 9 points aint an accident.
😉

Go ask on http://www.pepipoo.com

There's loads of experts on the site as it's specifically for this type of query.

There i something like a 3 month window of issuing I heard, I'd look into that more

Has to be notified to the registered keeper within 2 weeks – if she's not the registered keeper (leased etc.) then they can take as long as they like to notify her after that.

As others have said, if I needed my licence for work and had 9 points I'd be crawling everywhere.

Some authorities publish that they must issue the ticket within 30 days. Go to the relevant website and have a look.

They have to issue [post]the intention to prosecute notice within 14 days of the offence to the cars registered keeper
Company car ones obviously get sent to the company or lease company etc. & can then take a while to get to the driver

If they posted it within the 14 days, she's had it – if they didn't she stands a good chance of avoiding the fine & points

I think there's a 14 day limit also but it may be that its 14 days to issue the ticket to the owner of the vehicle. If its a lease company car then the ticket will have been sent to the lease company and they may have delayed forwarding it to your wife fo some reason. Not sure where she stands in those circumstances.

so bushwacked – who is the registered owner????????

Okay, the facts are:

NIP must be sent out within 14 days. This applies to the registered cars keeper/driver.

If the car is a lease car, hire car, company car etc then they have 6 months.

How do I know this? I worked for a company and we had 3 guys who kept speeding and getting caught. Our company cars were leased and the manager would lose his rag every few weeks as another NIP would land on his desk. lol. Fortunately everything was logged so it was easy to find out who it was.

Oh, and 9 points! I don't need to comment on that one… lol

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/speeding-question

Zedsdead – Member

Oh, and 9 points! I don't need to get any more abuse!!!!!!……

Plus a massive increase in her car insurance (if she insures the car herself) – that's assuming that she can get any, because a plenty of insurers won't touch anyone with 12 points plus.

By "speeding penalty notice" do you mean a Notice of Intention to Prosecute?

A NIP should be issued to the registered keeper within 14 days of the (alleged) offence I believe, though if she was stopped by the police rather than caught on camera then this won't apply – they will have given her a verbal NIP at the scene.

Note that if it's taken a while to track down the driver, this is outside of the 14 days. Ie, if the keeper and driver are different, the RK can't sit on it for a month before passing it on to the driver who then goes "14 days, hah!"

As for the "should have known better" argument; the real problem to my mind isn't the speeding in and of itself, but speeding whilst not paying attention to what she's doing. If you're going to drive fast you need to be constantly aware of what's going on around you, not seeing four speed traps would point towards observation issues.

If she needs her car for work and would be sacked if she lost her licence, you may have a case for claiming unnecessary hardship. Expect a hefty fine and perhaps a speed awareness course (which should really be coupled with a 'look where you're bloody going' course, when I'm in charge etc etc)

IdleJon, I decided to edit that as I thought he's going to get enough abuse on here lol.

But you're right. Although, I do wonder how many people are honest and do actually tell their insurance company if they have points and how many?….

Zed, sorted for you! 😉

Surely any right-thinking person will tell their insurance company how many points they have – otherwise they may find them not paying up in the event of a claim.

As for the argument of 'I need a license for work'

It will most likely go like this…

defence – my client requires a license for work blah blah hardship etc blah blah…

judge – does your husband work?

defence – yes, but…

judge – tough! Banned for a year and £400 fine. NEXT!

They're harsh!

No point having insurance if you don't tell them. It would be invalid anyway.

Speeding kills – no sympathy here.

Although, I do wonder how many people are honest and do actually tell their insurance company if they have points and how many?….

But that just makes it worse doesn't it, as fibbing to the insurance Co, just means you're not insurred 😯

mastiles, but most sensible people would only have 3 or maybe 6 if they were 'unlucky'.

If your insurance found out that you had 3 points which you didn't declare, they would mostly just charge the correct premium backdated to when you should have declared the points, as opposed to voiding the policy.

Covering up 12 points would be a little more serious though. (Not that I'm suggesting the Ops wife to be doing this.)

No sympathy, everyone has probably speeded some time in their life, but after your first 3 points people tend to learn. If it was permanent camera have 14 days to serve NIP to registered keeper, if it's a hire car or business car it can easily take months to reach the driver!!

Perhaps, but would anyone think it wise not to tell an insurance company even if it was 'just' 3 points? Write off a £20k car, insurance company looking to make savings, sees you haven't notified them about something that invalidates the policy, it just gives them a very easy out.

If all 12 points are for speeding then She's in a whole lot of trouble, & in all honsety there is a problem here, that needs to be addressed.
It took a Senior Director of a firm I knew to fly to N.Irelend to plead the case for a rep who was in a simmillar position. He kept his licence though.

Was she done by a camera or stopped by the police? If the later they have 6 months for the paper work to come through.

No sympathy. If she has so many points and needs the car for work she should take more care.

Well if she is hot/fit/busty…

And I was the judge…I'd let her get away with it as they do!

Ok bring in the Black guy who parked 1 minute longer than he should have in a 1hr zone…prision sentence 12 yrs!

Try saying it was you instead and spank her bottom in return?

😯

Does she have a dead relative she can palm the points off on like that woman did a couple of months ago?

speeding doesnt kill. bad driving kills.

Don't think you will get away with it by not telling insurers.

We just have gone through a vehicle write-off process, and the last step before they sent us the cheque was a teleconference call with the DVLA to make sure our licences were – as we had stated – clean.

guns dont kill people rappers do

alexxx – Member
speeding doesnt kill. bad driving kills.

So does denial.