look at the nissan delivery
I had one for years and have only just changed it - there not fast or quiet but they are super reliable (unlike all the french shite),
don't Renault own Nissan now?
look at the nissan delivery
I had one for years and have only just changed it - there not fast or quiet but they are super reliable (unlike all the french shite),
don't Renault own Nissan now?
they are part of the same group now but they were nissan when they made this one
vauxhall nissan and renault vans are now the same van albeit with slightly different trims but as to who is the main company I'm not sure, I think the new engines are renault (i now own a vauxhall version and its quite a nice van quick, economical, quiet and comfy but lacking the character of the old nissan) g
what is a nissan delivery?
Belingos got discussed a while back IIRC
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/citroen-berlingo-views
As it says in this thread and elsewhere, the speed limit issue is weight related - and the 'car derived stuff' in not necessarily a good guide. 50 in a 60 and 60 on a dual apply to my MK3 caddy (older models are lower gross laden weight), but the speed limit issue didn't stop me buying it, cause it's a really nice drive and suits my purposes well.
the delivery is a verson of the vannette but a bit smaller with an up and over tailgate rather than doors
dont think those speed limits apply to tranny size vans i think it only 7.5 tonners and above cos the limits for them are 40 on single lane 50 on dual carriage and 60 or whatever the limiter is set at on mways as are hgvs g
He's said he's getting a Berlingo, why do folk insist on continuing to recommend others?
r.e the speed thing, I read that if it says 'car derived van' in the logbook and the laden weight is under 2 tonnes, then the limits are the same as a car.
Although 'card derived van' is a bit of a vague definition, kinda dependant on who filled the reg docs in.
I'd think anything Transit size would fail on both counts and suffer the lower limits. Combo, Dispatch, Caddy etc must be borderline on the weight (check your log book). Fortunately my Mk2 caddy is under 2 tonnes gvw, so ok.
MussEd, because that way it keeps all the small van / car related info in one place.
as its something im interested in, the more varied suggestions the better.
however the rules regarding speed limits have already been linked (cough) so further speculation or examination of personal beliefs is a little pointless, but a sublist of which van looking cars are actually vans is handy to know (mk2 caddy not on my short list tho)
If it’s exclusively for Bike use i.e. mainly weekend motorways use, 3-4 people + bikes why not practise a bit of “bangernomics” and go for a late 90’s Estate Car instead, Vans are generally a tad more to tax and often way more abused/higher mileage than a similarly aged Estate car, I’d always prefer to be buying a £1K Car over a £1K van…
You have to think about who’s owned the car before you, Sedate old farts drive Estates (My Dad for instance: carefully, serviced regularly, Boring safe, pristine) Cowboy builders and plumbers will have raped your Van several times over before offloading an MOT failure into your lap…
You’re still gonna be taking off wheels to get more than 2 bikes in a Combi/Escort type van but you’ll more than likely only have seating for 2 people, a well packed Mundano/406 Estate could just about accommodate 3 riders + bikes before you need a rack, plus empty it out and leave it on the street/Drive during the week and nobody is going to be breaking in looking for tools or scrap copper, 3rd party insurance should do the job…
You can still do a bit of adaptation, remove a rear seat maybe add a (Gulp) roof box for kit and the option of a tow bar rack is a good one if there’s more of you, While I’d quite like a Van Myself I can see some drawbacks....
As for speed limits applied to Vans/Car derived Vans… I was under the impression that all Road Laws are “not applicable” if you are driving a van….

4 bikes wheels off, 5 riders without bike rack,
5 bikes, 5 riders with bike rack.
Slower than a slow thing, even with a turbo...
i got a silver berlingo van now

Bought for £300 with 1 year T&T,
Sold after 1 year with no T&T for £350
Result
Kinda wish i never sold it though
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