Is it true singular are/have making/made a fatbike prototype?
Or is it just a rumour? 
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Singular Fatbike?
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Posted 11 months ago #
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It's one hell of a small niche.
I doubt it's viable.
But would like to see it.Posted 11 months ago # -
I heard Erik Noren was building it in the States - again rumour unless you know otherwise.
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Hopefully not a steel one. The world doesn't need another heavy framed fatbike.
Seriously - these things need to go on a diet - mine weighs 40lbs.
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And hopefully one for people on the XS/S side of frames.
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Cool not just a rumour then - more another bike needed
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*ears prick up*
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The good thing about Singulars is that they get raced so they are not barges.
A quick handling fatbike would be welcome.
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I'm not really involved with what Marty is doing in the US - in fact I really need to have a word with him about him calling it a Singular.... However I am also (slowly) working on something over here. I've been riding Aidan's Pugsley a bit, and enjoying it a lot. However I think I'd enjoy it a lot more if it were just a bit lighter and funnerer - so that's what I'll be aiming for with the Puffin. These won't be production frames, so if/when they happen they will be in very limited quantities and we will be able to field custom requests. Brian - not all steel is heavy!
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On-One were posting pics of prototype fatbike rear end on their facebook pages a day or two back.
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my 34lb sandman makes the pug feel really weighty to ride at near 40lbs - id be interested to have a shot on shaggys 28lb racey 3x9 sandman for comparison - he has much lighter wheels than me - my wheels are 12lbs alone - but they float like nothing else on snow and bog !
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Stick me down as interested Sam
Puffin I like.
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Puffin is a great name for a fatbike
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The Fat Chick.... Is also a good name.
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Sam - Member
...Brian - not all steel is heavy!Aye, but when you end up with a bike that weighs nearly 40lbs, every ounce counts.
Just replaced my steel Pug frame with an alloy 9:Zero:7 and it's about 1.5lbs lighter. So that's one part done of my mission to get my fatbike down to a weight that I can lift over fences.
A Singular fatbike would be an attractive prospect though. No chance of Ti or 953?
If you go that route make sure you tie up a source of fat tyres. Getting the tyres is the biggest limitation at the moment.
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Just thinking some more about this - Ti would be really nice with a long steering head.
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what tyre is that! and is it really a 'normal' rim...looks about 21mm?
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neilnevill - Member
what tyre is that! and is it really a 'normal' rim...looks about 21mm?
As a wild guess based solely on the writing on the sidewall I'd say a Surly Larry. But I could be wrong
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What frame and fork is that epicyclo?
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40mm rim, Surly Larry tyre, TD-1 frame, Chinese fork - made as short as possible to bring the head down further and steepen the steering angle even more. (Also to minimise the flex)
A fat Ti Gryphon with a nice long steerer and sharp head angles would be just dandy.
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Hmmm, bought a Ti Gryphon from Sam over the winter and got it built up recently. Might see if i can get a suitable fork and wheel and give this a go.
Pic of the Ti Gryphon here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/singularcycles/5641266663/in/photostream/
Chris
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Nice Gryphon. Sam's bikes are the cleanest looking designs out there.
With a fat rear end, it would be just about perfect for me. (I would steepen up the head angle)
Where are you? - I may have a spare Surly fork for a fat tyre.
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can any one point me at a site with the dimension for differnt fat bike tyres?
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dont worry found out for myself
Speedway 70mm rim with Endomorph: 94.5 - 95.5 mm
Vicious Cycles 80 rim with Endomorph: 95.5 - 96.5 mm
100mm rim with Endomorph: 106.5 - 107.5 mmPosted 11 months ago # -
Quick heads up.
Surly are doing an XL Larry at 4.5 inches
Big may not always be better but it sure as hell is always bigger.
Due here in September.Posted 11 months ago # -
wont fit for me charlie
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Common thats not fair,ive already invested in a Gryphon and Swift and now im being tempted again.Where will it end.Probably the devorce courts.
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I've fitted carbon bars to my Pug, weight problem sorted........
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Charlie, thanks for the heads up. I haven't even got my pugsley yet and am looking at bits to upgrade
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Thanks for that info Charlie. Just saved me spending money on a too narrow frame
4.5" is going to make peat bog riding a bit easier.
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Will a 4.5 fit a standard Pug frame?
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40mm rim, Surly Larry tyre
Hmm, I'd assumed the Larry would only work on really fat rims (70mm+), how do you find it on 40mm? Do you think I'd get away with trying to fit it to a 32mm Sun Singletrack?
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I wouldn't go smaller than 40mm. I have to run the pressure a bit higher than on a proper 80mm rim and that takes away some of the advantage of the fat tyre. (The 40mm rim is to reduce the inflated tyre width so it fits in the fork)
However I haven't tried a smaller rim, so it may be worth an experiment.
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Cheers Epicyclo.
Might see if I can pick up a Larry second hand to experiment with then. I was thinking on a narrow rim I could squeeze a Larry through my rigid forks which might make a good winter commuter and 'puffer bike.
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