fair enough. be a boring world if we all thought the same. i'm very pleased with my led converted lumicycle hid unit, used in conjunction with my cheapy chinese torch on my lid. 
each to their own.
sorry if i killed your thread trout. really do admire your willingness to explore, ask questions, and develop.
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Seven hundred lumen Joystick
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Posted 5 months ago #
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max 2 amps setting lumens 686 runtime 1.5 hours
medium 1 amp lumens 392 rumtime 2.5 hours
low .5 amp lumens 207 runtime 5 hoursWould certainly be interested in something along these lines, hope you carry on with the good work.
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Cheers Del
you do have some valid points there .but consider the Joystick owner whose lamp is a bit tired this battery replacement and led driver swop brings it upto date and like a new un
for the price of a cheap chinese light instead of it going in the landfill and I get a few beer tokens for the effort
same with the hope led swopsHere is a laff for you Pete (flashes got the name right this time )
its a hybrid spidereyes
the other protos are at the machineshop so should be something coming after xmas
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I have a mk1 joystick & love it, for a while I was wondering about getting a diablo but Troutie did the upgrade on my hope visions so right now I use those on my helmet, I do have a hankering to update the joystick though, it is so convenient and no extra battery packs etc so am watching this thread with interest & definately plan on getting the joystick upgraded
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Ive also got a Mk1 Joystick and this upgrade is EXACTLY what Ive been waiting for. keep bashing away Troutie and let us know
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Does the joystick upgrade still have a flash mode? My mk1 is getting a little long in the tooth but good to use for commuting all week and still have an OKish head torch for nightrides.
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Yes it has a strobe setting
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Do you have to cut your way into these exposure lights?
I have a mk1 exposure Toro (single p7 led I think) that could do with an upgrade (could no doubt be a bit brighter, but more importantly needs a wider beam pattern), but it seems impossible to get into without some power tools....?
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No cutting but not easy to unscrew the end caps sealed up with rubbery stuff and orings
put on a pair of marigolds
for extra grip 
Posted 5 months ago # -
Yeah, do these XML give a wider spread compared to the original LED (even keeping the original optics). Have a MaxxD that needs fixed (heatsink rattled loose) so id be interested in knowing if i could improve the spread somewhat at the same time.
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See beamshots up top there
yes they do widen the beam a tad I have a maxd to explore but have as yet been unable to open it need some spinach and marigoldsPosted 5 months ago # -
Ace, if you want another to play with let me know :0)
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let me know what you find inside the maxxd - only interested in the battery
plus, how easy is it to open the battery end and resell after. TahKeep up the tinkering
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No cutting but not easy to unscrew the end caps sealed up with rubbery stuff and orings
put on a pair of marigolds for extra grip
you must have stronger hands than me troutie, I've only been able to get the button end off mine so far!
Posted 5 months ago # -
Hi trout, have you managed to get a new battery for this joystick?
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camerone, smudge got me a battery for my joystick so have a chat to him, just needed to solder the protection circuit onto it and rebuild. I killed my driver board though, so keeping an eye on this thread!
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Yep got the battery just struggling to get it to work with the switch
might have to change the switch I could do with an extra half inch in the joystick
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I could do with an extra half inch in the joystick
Ah, so familiar..........
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So is the battery slightly larger and therefore not leaving room for original stuff?
I am getting excited about the end result now...........Posted 5 months ago # -
Phew finally got it welded back together and out for a doggy walk works nicely so will pop it back in the post today for evaluation .
Posted 5 months ago # -
Camerone can you please send me your address I cant find it even under the fridge
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Trout, have emailed my address. What power and battery times do you reckon it will have? I assume charge it in usual way, does the light on the back work as a fuel gauge and battery charging guide?
Will report my findings when I can!!
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No idea yet thats for you to research for me .
there is no rear light now the main leds flash off 5 times when 2/3s empty.
and also flash when it is about to die but just how long to death I dont yet know.
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Troutie, would be interested to see a parts list and how you did it if you can when you have some spare time, but nae worries if not.
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Trout. Will have a play and report back. At risk of asking stupid question it won't damage battery running it to empty a few times will,it?
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nope it will switch off at 3 volts so no harm
to switch on. its 3 quick clicks not 2
and press n hold to switch offPosted 5 months ago # -
Hi-Jack
No wonder you're not replying to my emails.....you up to no good again
Looking forward to seeing the 'hauted barn' phots.
Also, I want to buy some stuff off you Troutie; 3xXML, Bflex(have I got that right) and a tripple optic (if you have em)....gonna attempt the DIY lumi-hid...now all the boxes are unpacked, well nearly all of em
PS: It's rubbish not having a shed
Posted 5 months ago # -
Trout. Received joystick but strange goings on are afoot.
It worked out of the box as follows. Three click on, then single click to scroll between two settings, a longer click took it to a lower level, then single clicks to the higher two levels.
I then plugged it in to charge - the light on the charger went red as expected, then after half hour or so it started high speed flashing red, and now the joystick completely refuses to come on.... No amount of button pressing will get it to come on, it's as dead as a dead thing.. Any ideas?..Posted 5 months ago # -
Kinda interested in this too.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Trout - have you had chance to ponder this problem above..?
cheersPosted 5 months ago # -
Trout
Just checking you received my joystick back in the post for post mortem.
CheersPosted 4 months ago # -
Ok, joystick now back with me , went out for a pootle last night and can report as follows.
It fares well in the 'shine on the shed in the garden' test, incomparably brighter than before and closer to the Diablo mk3 I have.
I used it on the trails as a helmet light in conjunction with my Lupine Betty on the bars. Its a revelation, lovely focussed beam, no dark patches in the light, just a great spot light.
However, in order to test it I ran it full power and after 40 minutes it started to periodically flash, it still ran on high power but every ten seconds or so it flashed. At this point I put on the Diablo so don't know how long it would have gone on for, will do further tests.In practice I would use the medium setting for non-downhill sections, I will see how that affects burn time. Haven't tried piggy back on it yet, again will try in due course.
Of course the Diablo only lasts an hour on full chat too, battery management is always going to be part of a powerful light with small battery, and I am confident that a combination on medium and full would get it to go well beyond an hour..
Will update next time used.
Posted 3 months ago # -
Sounds good. I'm not sure how long the XML + 18650 DX torch my gf has would last on full, probably about the same.
Troutie - any build tips coming?
Posted 3 months ago # -
So do you have pics of the joystick itself?
Can you just change the emiter?Just wondering as I could be very interested to pimp up my 150lms
Posted 3 months ago # -
Ive got an old Mk1 Joystick for sale if anyone fancies a bit of Troutie pimping.
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