Now go grab a wet with Frank and Nish.
Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long while... Have heard some tales about him from those "who were there" that truly make your hair curl!
I think the party in Valhalla will be going on till the early hours 
Whoo Stampy feet moment from the normal contenders.
RIP Mac.
Another of his "mates " was also buried this last week. Dad went to the funeral. Lots of very quiet men there who cleared off quickly he said.
We need more of that type.
Gosh there are some people on here who really do over analyse things.
The world can be an unpleasant place, human nature has shown itself to be incredibly destructive over the years.
With this in mind i am more than happy with the UK having an aggressive foreign policy and mounting various foreign escapades to effect regime change that favours the UK or to secure oil supplies....its a dog eat dog world and i sleep like a baby knowing that the UK government is usually quite happy to crap on a weaker country in order to maintain this status quo.
Back to the original post, RIP McAleese....men of his ilk are awesome, totally unencumbered by the wishy washy morals the rest of us fret over.
Gosh there are some people on here who really do over analyse things.bit of honesty at last. Now I wonder why our leaders don't market it in this way...The world can be an unpleasant place, human nature has shown itself to be incredibly destructive over the years.
With this in mind i am more than happy with the UK having an aggressive foreign policy and mounting various foreign escapades to effect regime change that favours the UK or to secure oil supplies....its a dog eat dog world and i sleep like a baby knowing that the UK government is usually quite happy to crap on a weaker country in order to maintain this status quo.
Back to the original post, RIP McAleese....men of his ilk are awesome, totally unencumbered by the wishy washy morals the rest of us fret over.
quite happy to crap on a weaker country
Whose inhabitants tend to want to kill easier targets here to return the favour.
Classic STW tough guy stuff though. Have a biscuit.
No tough guy here, i'd shit myself if conscription was ever introduced....just perfectly comfortable with having a government and armed forces that do this kind of thing so i can get on with enjoying myself.
Tough guy by proxy then.
Where will all the tough guy stuff stop I wonder?
Reading through the list of posts here clearly indicates to me that most of you are clueless as to the true achievements of this man.Very true but it still won't prevent the clueless turdballs trying to be clever and score entirely meaningless points in their sad little keyboard hero world.
The man undoubtedly earned and deserves respect. RIP
With this in mind i am more than happy with the UK having an aggressive foreign policy and mounting various foreign escapades to effect regime change that favours the UK or to secure oil supplies....its a dog eat dog world and i sleep like a baby knowing that the UK government is usually quite happy to crap on a weaker country in order to maintain this status quo.
At least you're honest about it unlike our government and the vast majority of people - I personally find it pretty abhorrent though and wish we could be more like eg Scandinavian countries that seem to generally keep themselves to themselves.
The guy was clearly very good at his job but I'm not sure why we should be celebrating it - seems to be a lot of testosterone floating about in this thread.
Ooh, lot of angst and sand in knickers on here...
Room for a little Elf? 
Very true but it still won't prevent the clueless turdballs trying to be clever and score entirely meaningless points in their sad little keyboard hero world.I may not give the guy respect but I'll say that I hope he does rest in peace. But these type of threads really do need a bit of balance. Call that a keyboard hero world all you want, but what exactly is it you are doing, keyboard hero worshipping? Not exactly very much difference.. I actually suspect the guy himself would be a lot more willing to discuss things that some people on this thread.
The man undoubtedly earned and deserves respect. RIP
So all you wets on here dont support help for heroes then?
There's some choice comments on this thread. I can't begin to imagine what the thread which finally announces that Thatcher has popped her clogs will be like. As far as McAleese is concerned, special forces are undoubtedly required, as armies are, in every country. How they are put to use is another matter altogether. But the particular incident which made McAleese famous was undoubtedly totally justified. And I'm sure that Ayatollah Khomeini/Iranian government was no less grateful to McAleese than the British government was. I can't speculate what McAleese's reasons for joining the SAS were, but I'm sure they included the fact that he wanted to join, and he almost certainly enjoyed being in the SAS. I don't idolise him for doing a job which he presumably wanted to do, but I do respect him for doing a necessary job.
So all you wets on here dont support help for heroes then?
I've given money before, personally though I don't like the name (I don't believe in hero-worship) - I also think the government should be looking after these people properly rather than a charity needing to do it.
Calling people 'wets' is a fairly childish example of the kind of overdose of testosterone I was talking about though.
Seosamh77, I wasn't wanting to get into a big debate about the use of the army, our foreign policies over the years or such. I'm not pretending that I know his full service record and making a judgment on the guys life on that basis..
Innocent? I don't think anyone of the terrorists in the Iranian embassy that day were very "innocent".
So all you wets on here dont support help for heroes then?
edrics so hard hes making me wet
Edit... I cant be arsed and I should never have read the chat forum in the first place.
Seosamh77, I wasn't wanting to get into a big debate about the use of the army, our foreign policies over the years or such. I'm not pretending that I know his full service record and making a judgment on the guys life on that basis..I haven't once discussed the innocence or the guilt of the iranian terrorists, so i'm not really seeing your point or the relevance their guilt has?
Innocent? I don't think anyone of the terrorists in the Iranian embassy that day were very "innocent"
But the guys job involves a lot more than that so i think it's only logical that a discussion of the wider aspects of his occupation as a whole and not just him as an individual would possibly ensue from this type of thread.
I'm sure there's plenty british army forums you could have gone to if you just wanted a thread with 1,000 RIPs that would have moderated me out. Hardly the way of this place though is it...
Died a couple of days before the 2nd anniversary of his sons death in Afghan. Very sad.
Larger than life character it seems and a tale or two to tell no doubt.
' Oi hen, shift yersell I cannae see the telly' Or words to that effect to Thatch after she visited them on completion of the Iranian Embassy siege.
"People sleep peaceably in their bed at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
George Orwell.
RIP Sgt John McAleese MM Special Air Service Regiment
I actually suspect the guy himself would be a lot more willing to discuss things that some people on this thread.Isn't the fact that he can't, the point of this thread?
But these type of threads really do need a bit of balance.In your opinion. Why not save it for the politicians instead of trying to denigrate the achievements of someone who has served his Country.
Edit... I cant be arsed and I should never have read the chat forum in the first place.Dammit man, you're right
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If the SAS were that good, why did the IRA take the piss for so long?
Because the UK government wouldn't allow them to take out all suspected IRA members as it would be to controversial and no doubt some would claim they were innocent
"People sleep peaceably in their bed at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
George Orwell
no really i couldn't care less..
Why bother posting then?
that he is dead, this thred is quite funny
Ah yes when Margaret Thatcher passes away there will be some shameful and childish comments about dancing on graves etc.
I have very little time for Tony Blair however I don't wish him ill.
it's the lack of milk protein as a child that's created your feeble mind hora, all thatcher the milk snatcher's fault.
she has a lot to answer for.
Yep a few kids round here need to get out a little more thats for sure..
JM was without question quite an extraordinary man but this hero-worship? Well Im pretty damn sure he'd piss himself with laughter at some of the crap spouted on here..
Looking at me and you Gary one of us had more milk than the other as a child
Seosamh77-you commented that" Many innocent lives would have been lost as a result of the job in front of him and others, is that acceptable?"
I was only referring to the ones I know about, and the terrorists that day weren't innocent in any way IMO.
Do you know the details of the innocent lives that were lost as a result of him doing his job? I doubt it.
Fair enough, you're not a fan of him of his colleagues and their actions.. But I don't feel that's justification
for a sweeping generalisation about all the innocent lives lost..
Jeezo!
The only good thing out of all this is that they will be playing repeats of Fawlty Towers. RIP John.
Seosamh77-you commented that" Many innocent lives would have been lost as a result of the job in front of him and others, is that acceptable?"
I was only referring to the ones I know about, and the terrorists that day weren't innocent in any way IMO.
Do you know the details of the innocent lives that were lost as a result of him doing his job? I doubt it.
Fair enough, you're not a fan of him of his colleagues and their actions.. But I don't feel that's justification
for a sweeping generalisation about all the innocent lives lost..
no because if they did they people of Ireland would have taken to the streets and hell would have been unleashed... again... like the last time they had that idea.. black and tans etc
he killed people for money and now he is dead.. my heart bleeds.. no really i couldn't care less..
BULL SHIT!!!!
You and your kind are the polar opposite to men like Sgt Mac. That is NOT a compliment.
No mate, I'm sure there prob have been at some point. That's the nature of any armed conflict I guess. You seem intent on stirring things tho- noticed you did something similar in response to someone else's post earlier in the thread.
The guys dead. I think he prob did some good with his life throughout it. I don't know everything about him and his career so was mostly making reference to the storming of the Iranian embassy. You appear to think the opposite and wish to disagree with anyone who does.. Fair enough. Thank goodness we live in a country where that's perfectly acceptable.
(edit) I guess my contention is that neither of us prob really knows what he got up to in his professional career. But I guess he prob did his best to do his job as best as he could. And that that prob made a difference in the grander scheme of things. For that, I think he, and anyone else that does the same, deserves respect.
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