But the pixie dust (activated by the hidden hologram in the 853 sticker which is aligned with the resonant frequency of the frame) makes is 87.2% better to ride.
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Reynolds 853 frame
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Posted 1 year ago #
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well theoretically there is something in it, because in theory you could design a frame to deflect more without breaking, hence the so called steel comfort thing, although if this is ever done successfully and/or could be detected by the user is a different matter...
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well theoretically there is something in it
yes, of course there is. It's just the amount of people who really believe that 853 is much better irrespective of the specifics of how it's used.
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yeah I totally agree.
A good example whould be:
My Cotic BFe has some various reynolds grades in it can't remember which ones, it does ride very well. To be honest Cy is an ex railway chartered engineer and talk mucho sense, I'm convinced he knows his onions (and I have a low opinion of almost everyone), given that he also doesn't use flashy steel in some parts of the frame and justifies it, makes me think he has applied high strength steels in the most effective way.
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Yeah - I think that'd sum my feelings up about Cy too actually but then it's not him or really the other designers I'm thinking of - more reviewers and so on who clearly haven't a clue what they're writing about but which is then picked up by many who'll swear blind that there's a huge difference because of it.
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yeah well the reviewers are just there to sell copy..
There are some other designers who talk sciencey rubbish though. Gary fisher is my fave for raging howlers..
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But the pixie dust (activated by the hidden hologram in the 853 sticker which is aligned with the resonant frequency of the frame) makes is 87.2% better to ride.
Like Balance/Balance Bands for steel you say???
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Phew I thought no one would spot my humourous but subtle comment on balance bandz and people's general willingness to be blinded by pseudo-science
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I have an Orange R8 (Reynolds 853 main tubes). And a Bontrager privateer (tange something or other tubes). The bonty has skinnier tubes and is sooo much more enjoyable to ride as it has more of the steel feel. No scientific reasoning here, just subjective opinion.
I'd not buy because of the tubing sticker.
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Reynolds 853 is available in a range of diametres and thicknesses,
http://reynoldstechnology.biz/assets/pdf/rtl_2010_parts_list.pdf
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I've had two 853 frames hence the user name. A Ribble R8 which was lovely and an Explosif and then in 2005 I got an '05 Cove Handjob, Columbus Life steel I think it was then.
They are very similar in feel but the Cove is by far the best bike and that is all to do with geometry. I would say if you like the way the Handjob rides keep it.
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I had a Cove Handjob (Columbus nemo tubing I think) and swapped it earlier this year for a Pipedream Sirius 853. The Cove probably rode better than the Sirius, OK the Sirius is a heavier frame but the Cove felt much more sprightly that the Sirius.
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