Well mine was made in Sheffield.
Really? £60 for a shirt ...
Elfinsafety - Member
This is a myth. The clothes are made in the same massive Far Eastern factories. It's just snobbishness that makes people believe stuff from Tescos or Primark is inferior. I've seen some perfectly reasonable gear from both places, and some way overpriced tat with 'designer' labels on.
And me the opposite...
you find me a shirt/jeans from tesco etc with the same cut / fit / quality as so called overpriced one's...
lets face it, you wont...
hmmm.... £60 obviously isnt cheap, but its not really a great amount of money!
x2 bicycle tyres or a designer shirt... perspective!
Edric 64 - Member
I have seen 400 quid Jimmy Choo's that are no better in construction than 40 quid shoes from New Look.
but they are Jimmy Chho's hell if I were a chick I would definitely pay that for them.
Hell I have a pair of boots that cost me 300 but them I am a proper shoe whore!
Do you actually know what 'proper denim' is? It's a basic cotton fabric that's very easy and cheap to produce. The jeans will invariably be made in he Far East, using cheap labour. Each pair will cost a couple of quid to make, no more. Even after shipping and taxes, we're still not talking about loads of money involved.
Yes they are made in the far east, in Japan in most cases, by companies like Evisu and Edwin (other non japanese companies include Nudie and vintage levis) .
Yes I do know what proper Denim is. Its called selvedge. This sort of denim is made on original shuttle looms (which are no longer used by the big jean companies), and its edges won't fray. There are only a handful of the original looms left, so only a few companies make proper selvedge (you get lots of selvedge imitations though). It's not just about function, its about buying a piece of clothing thats a bit special and something not everyone else is wearing, as well as buying an item of clothing that won't wear out after a year or two
The OP has a point. The knowitalls proclaiming "tight arse" don't have much of one.
The quality of clothing is often very poor, and price is no indicator of quality. A few examples:
My aunt was in charge of a line at Courtaulds back when they made stuff in the UK. As a rule, the likes of M&S would be looking for 16 stitches per inch. Stitches per inch directly relates to the quality and strength of the seam. Look at almost any garment on sale now outside of very pricey stuff, and you'll find something like 8 stitches per inch. The vast majority of stuff on sale at the moment would have been in the rejects bin 20 years ago.
Similarly, I have some old New & Lingwood shirts in my wardrobe. If you took one to the shops and did a side by side comparision, even New & Lingwood's current stuff doesn't match in terms of quality of fabric.
On the other hand, it's not all down the shitter - I've got a pricey jumper which has been worn as much as all my others put together, and it's still in better nick. The problem is that there's no way of telling on the shop shelf that one jumper is going to last years and the other will be pilled up like mad in a couple of months.
Okay I managed to buy two pairs of Duck & Cover Union Mid Wash jeans for £66 (retail price £60/pairs) from TK Maxx as they seem to have the one I like and the thickest of the lot, which I assume, hopefully, will last longer. The front pockets are like those that you simple stitched outside rather than the traditional inside pocket so they will be able to handle my heavy keys. Also bought two Brekka plastic base layers for £15 each.
djglover - Member
LOL! Those are the only jeans that have thick pockets ...
I'll buy fairly expensive stuff on occasion, but I much prefer to find stuff in sales, like most of the jeans I have; several pairs of Howies, several pairs of Oakley's. Next time I'm in London village I'm checking out Uniqlo's Japanese Denim jeans for £45, they look like selvedge, and I prefer to try them on before I buy. I've got NF stuff that I payed full price for but it's lasted for years. Recently bought a couple of vintage Pendleton wool shirts for £25, usually £75-130 new, and they're lovely, but I just got three Uniqlo flannel shirts for just under £50, and they're fantastic, soft, warm and very comfy, even came with all the plastic collar stiffeners that you used to get with a new shirt. Lovely stuff for the money. Just shows decent quality doesn't need to be pricey. And of course I know it's clothing made in China for a Japanese company. What isn't, these days?
I hope those new jeans of mine will last for 3 years ...
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