Did you just call me a **** ?Right thats it ... outside now
No I called you a **** not a **** .
You'll have to hang on while I get dressed, wouldnt want my dressing gown coming undone whilst have a wrestle would we.
Clearly a_a's dog will if it gets near a cat - a fact he's proud enough to brag about on a forum
You clearly cannot read and someone who talks about kicking cats as an aide to training is at best to be pitied.
DING! DING!
Round 2.........!
Trying to go back on topic. If I buy a cat, in the full knowledge that it will kill wild birds, yet derive pleasure from owning it, and I am no less cruel from deriving pleasure by dispatching the birds myself. I can see by owning a cat I would endanger local wildlife
Hahaha, what utter toss. God knows where you've learnt any of that.
Kicking cats is cruel and absurd!
tankslapper, exactly my point. Super soaker water pistol is good too.
Hahaha, what utter toss
Thereby demonstrating my point. Kitty is a killer - you know this, yet still fail to see how keeping an animal that DOES and WILL kill wildlife is wrong. If I were to kick your cat I would definitely be kicking the more intelligent party.
As tankslapper has eloquently suggested, I could just kill the thing, as I would know I was killing a cat not to eat it, just as moggy knows it's killing a bird but won't eat it. It is after all my instinct to protect my territory....
tankslapper, exactly my point. Super soaker water pistol is good too.
There was a point, and you missed it
WHAT! a ****!!!!!! .... You lousy bicyclist!
Bring your mates, and don't you worry about yer dressing gown, let the buggers swing, I'll be ripping them off and stuffing them somewhere that precludes dog egg trail interfaces!!
@ tankslapper - so you're saying cats don't serve a purpose, what about the companionship they can bring to some people? As for serving a purpose.. *slips in to your character* if a dog isn't a rescue dog/drugs dog/sheep dog/police dog etc, whats the point in having it?
if a dog isn't a rescue dog/drugs dog/sheep dog/police dog etc, whats the point in having it?
None whatsoever, but with the exception of a_a's lurcher, they don't tend to kill things on a whim as can be much better trained. Also it's not socially acceptable to let them wander free and crap in your neighbours' gardens. At least if a dog chases a sheep it is acceptable for the farmer to shoot it....
Riding on cycle trail through local nature reserve when a dog walker is spied walking past the big sign saying nature reserve dogs must be kept on a short lead. Said dog walker says to partner "Oh look she's found something to play with" as their dog runs about in the undergrowth chasing a ground nesting bird FFS!
and the difference between my cat and her dog is???
the difference between my cat and her dog is???
an irresponsible owner?
dogs are thick as two short planks, where as cats secretly rule the world?
"and the difference between my cat and her dog is???"
As a rule, dogs aren't left free to roam, whereas cats are.
@0091paddy My point is cats do what cats do. If people want companionship get a dog – why have a killing machine? Besides, what other purpose do cats serve? Sheep cat anyone?
As a rule, dogs aren't left free to roam, whereas cats are.
Sighs deeply and very regretfully find himself agreeing with a_a
You clearly cannot read ............
a_a
an irresponsible owner?
PREEEEEEEECISELY! Thus no need to extract retribution from the innocent party wheter feline, canine or reptile! Unless course any of them are crapping where I ride, in which case poo pipe kicked up furry, or for that matter scaley bum will ensue, simply as an aid to training. So you lot stop being nasty Tiddles, Fi-Fi or Spike and beat up their owners instead.
Problem solved, so now can we talk about intresting or amusing stuff instead, like muffin tops, gunts or bunts for instance.
A cat owner by definition is irresponsible....
No one owns a cat 
A cat owner by definition is irresponsible....
Your language might be (deliberately?)provocative, but I can't see how an owner could possibly prevent their cat from crapping in neighbours' gardens and killing wildlife. By contrast, it's perfectly possible to prevent a dog from doing those things.
No ransos - it's a fact. If you let your animal do what the heck it likes then that's irresponsible. (Unless its neutered in which case its partly irresponsible)
If a dog owner got on the way cat owners got on then the dog would be thrown in the pound. Ergo cat owners and ownership leading to mass destruction of wildlife and defecating at will = irresponsible. FACT!
Tankslapper's cat earlier
I defacate at will...... am I irresponsible too? 
PS: Any of my neighbours who complain about my cat are offered the choice of Cat Pepper or a Super Soaker at my expense. Seems to be fine with them, and the cats made it to 16 without any undue psychological problems,.
PMSL @ianmunro
But you've missed a very important point that cat's alive!
I defacate at will...... am I irresponsible too?
What? In your neighbours 'back yard'?!!
Well Cat pepper doesn't work on me, and he dosn't walk so well since the Super soaker incident, so whats to stop me ?
Cats are the best thing since sliced bread, it's a fact. Dogs are bloody woeful creatures, noisy, generally disobedient, smelly, demanding. Cats, on the other hand, are quiet clean and calming. Kicking any animal is pathetic, regardless of reasoning. And for the record, as a long term cat keeper, our cats never shat in anyone elses garden - they had a favourite spot in ours, and all the studies about cats killing birds are remarkably questionable in the scientific basis. Just as questionable as if I did a study to find out how many people had been bothered by neighbours dogs barking at studid times of the night, leaving dog eggs, peeing on things etc. Having any pet is a luxury, I cant believe we are going down the route of rating their antisocial levels.
"I cant believe we are going down the route of rating their antisocial levels."
Really - this is the STW chat forum. What do you think goes on here?
What's going on then?
coffeeking
And your experience is what? Anecdotal?
You have two cats, it's hardly a representative sample is it?!
The British Mammalian Society study was based on 986 cats living in 618 households. Not conclusive I grant you but better than 'my two shat in my own garden'
In a five month period the moggies in the report took a total of 14370 species. I think that even if someone would have wanted to skew these results then the skewing would be down not up with cat owners hiding the fact that they are in charge of a very efficient killing machines.
My guess is that cats may be one of the main drivers in urban areas for causing population collapse in a wide range of fauna - I say collapse as I recognise cats as not the only culprit but the ones likely to finish the job off - I'm sure someone can come up with scientific proof on that one.
And for the record, as a long term cat keeper, our cats never shat in anyone elses garden
You have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of proving that, unless you follow your cat around 24/7
This thread is like a bar fight in a Western. People come in trying not to get involved, but then someone spills their drink, breaks a chair over their head, or punches their wife in the face, and it's fists a-flying.
Just got back from taking my lurcher cat hunting, no luck this time. Whats happening here?
Ahh good this thread reminds me - must feed the snakes tonight.
They eat mice not pussy though...
My pythons more of a pussy fancier to be honest...
Cats are the best thing since sliced bread, it's a fact
PMSL!
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