Don't ride of footpaths, just don't.
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Pushed from bike by walker...
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Posted 3 years ago #
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crouch_potato my sarcasm was obviously lost on you. I am a big fan of Harrogate but lets face it most of the inhabitants are somewhat sheltered from the grim realities of modern life.
The point I was trying to make is that people are losing the ability to deal with confrontations or differences of opinion. These things are usually better dealt with at the time and forgotten about, rather than constantly replaying incidents in your head, allowing them to add to an increasing but unspoken frustration with the state of society, or indeed writing a strongly worded letter to the Daily Mail.
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Sorry about that shandy, that was kind of the point I was making too. Sarcasm duly noted
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I have been stopped on a private estate road, but that is classified as a public footpath. I was told to get off and walk after a very confrontational approach by a couple of guys that looked like Chips and Poncho. That was a decade ago. The law is the law, even when it's an ass!
Even if it's private land they can only ask you to leave their land and even then they can not assualt you except in self defence. Also they can't demand you leave by a specific route and any damage to you or your property would be claimable in the small claims court.
Had a farmer point a shotgun at me once on a clearly marked bridleway (in mid-Wales) so I reported it to the local plod and he told me the guy was always doing it. Eventually he did it to a group of walkers one of whom made a citizen's arrest! Turns out that the 10 metres between one gate on the bridleway and the next was actually over his land and wasn't technically a bridleway! The judge decided that the gap was permissible by anyone using the bridleway and the farmer got a big fine and his shotgun licence revoked!
Sometimes the law is not a complete ass!
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MR Potato,
That too is a fair point, apart from the macho ones tho;-)
Chris
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Am I correct in thinking there were cyclists amongs't the walkers during the 'mass tresspass'?
I seem to remember seeing a photo once.Posted 3 years ago # -
So did he actually physically push you or just move across the path towards you, giving you nowhere to go?
He walked towards me and as I approached he moved sideways as to shoulder-barge me off the trail and drop about 12 inches into the shrubs/mud. He did physically barge me out of the way - it wasn't a case of m having to ride off the trail to avoid him.TBH - I dn't think I would hav it in me to smash someones face in for that incident though.
It is interesting though that some people think it is okay to do what he did because I shouldn't have been riding there. If I had have ridden to his left instead of his right, I would have been on the river side of the trail and it drops away quite quickly down to the river bank. I wonder if he would have been deemed within his rights if I had have gone into the water and drowned?
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And this is turning into a Smee thread.
No-one thinks (as far as I can see) that he was right to push you off, stab you, or drown you. But, user conflict is a fact of life and you appear to have been courting it. That doesn't make him shoving you around right, but it may have been predictable.
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shame you didn't have time to 'panic grab' him to take him with you.
Would have to agree that riding footpath is cheeky, but NO excuse for barging you off, if he was that bothered a simple 'Do you mind letting me through, this is a footpath you know?' would have probably been enough to make his point.
Matt
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You should of fell and rolled around like didier drogba, then watched their reaction.
Seriously sometimes it's better to take it on chin, even if you feel aggrieved. I think we can all have times when we have been wronged.
On a different line. I was in chamonix on a bike holiday in 2003 and coming down the descent. Came upon two french walkers (father and son), slowed down to stop for them. Suddenly the father pushes his son out of the way, then cries "allez allez" and frantically beckons me down and pats me on the back as i pass. why can't we all be friends.Posted 3 years ago # -
why can't we all be friends.
Because in this country (and a few others) we're all to preoccupied with who has the right to do what, rather than just acting sensibly. The OP was on a footpath, it's not illegal but it is "cheeky". He passed with plenty of room, the moron that hit him is in the wrong, to as much, if not more of an extent. But theres nothing you can do about it now, personally I'd have stood up and if I'd maintained my calm I'd have forced him into an argument about it with the hopes of making him realise he is a boob. However ultimately anyone who thinks pushing a cyclist off is an appropriate response is likely to only understand the feeling of chainrings in the teeth, so it's better to walk off and remain a non-murderer.
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Scotland looks better every time I see a thread like this. Makes up for the rain
I would have snotted him regardless of his size. I admire your forbearance.
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I would have pretended to find a fiver in the vegetation... "Cheers mate!"
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I've just thought of a new horaism..
As long as I am hard in bed- thats all I care (and live) for
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This reminds me of a similar incident a few years back. My wife and I were out on a ride and on a cheeky section when we encountered an oldish man and his wife coming towards us. We both slowed and moved into one side and as we passed the man leapt across the trail and pushed my wife off her bike. The front wheel spun, locked and she went over the bars and headfirst into a trailside tree. Fortunately she was ok except for some cuts to her neck and cheek, her lid was written off and one of her bar ends was snapped. I turned round to help her out and this guy was dancing towards me with his fists up. He was shouting about it being a footpath and how he was sick of bikers etc. He stopped when my wife took her helmet off and starting apologising because he hadn't realised she was girl.
Now at this point I wanted to beat him to the point where he was pissing blood and I guess I had the right to, but he was an old man. If i had hit him who knows what the outcome would have been. So i didn't, and I was angry with myself for letting it go for weeks afterwards.
I did one thing though, I took his glasses off and threw them a long way off the trail, i'd be surprised if he ever found them again, silly old coot
My conclusion is avoid assaulting people unless you have no choice in the matter, it ain't worth the possible consequences.
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Ride on footpaths expect the ire of other users?
In other news the Pope confirms that he is indeed Catholic.
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My conclusion is avoid assaulting people unless you have no choice in the matter
Genius. Give the man a nobel peace prize.
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Genius. Give the man a nobel peace prize.
takes bow
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In other news the Pope confirms that he is indeed Catholic.
did you mean "Does the Pope shit in the woods ?" ?
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He's the Pope, he'll sh*t just wherever he likes. What do you think he sits on in the Popemobile?
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Scotland looks better every time I see a thread like this. Makes up for the rain [:)]
Just for the record - Scotland is terrible. I should know, I've lived here for 40 odd years. Please understand that you really wouldn't like it. The rain is real, cold and generally horizontal. There is no Sun. The only warmth is from midgie bites. It's a pretty boring place with nothing to do really. Not recommended for mountain biking. We can't make beer, and you wouldn't like Whisky (or Haggis). We have funny laws that you just wouldn't understand. Come to think of it, you wouldn't understand what anyone is saying either. Please, for your own sakes, just stay down in that there Englandshire.
ta
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We can't make beer
Lies!
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Lies!
Shhh!!!
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Bob didn't get your negative psychology did he?
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Mmm Orkney Dark Island, oooohhhh, im sorry i've just come!
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I know the patch of "northshore" you speak of... its great isn't it? I had a stone thrown at me by a chap in his 60's who shouted "you can't ride here!". Probably should have shown him the bouncy end of my bombers or something, but I felt yelling back "we can, look!" as we rode away was much more polite.
Why are people so violent/ aggressive all the time. I once had a land owner ask me not to ride a particular trail as it was heavily eroded and the large puddles were damaging the embankment causing mud slides. He promised he would rectify the situation when it stopped raining, but was concerned that a mud slide would damage his buildings below. Polite, friendly, and making a good point. he then suggested I try the footpath over the top of the valley as its really rocky and well drained.
spread the love people!
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I wonder if it was the same guy? LOL! There are (thankfully) very few people like him around there as it isn't prime 'red sock' territory. Unfortunately one is enough.
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