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1. mastiles_fanylion - Member

   Yet your children are both conceived and alive? courtesy of the NHS even if you had to pay for the fertility treatment.

   
   They are alive so I shouldn't have any reason to question any claimed improvements in the service the NHS provides?
   

   even if you had to pay for the fertility treatment.

   
   Which is, of course, a whole different argument. Our PCT said it would start to provide it again on 1 April 2010. On 31 March 2010 they announced it was being delayed. Again.

   Posted 2 years ago #
2. porterclough - Member

   To go back to the OP, I think the consensus generally is that most people are fed up of the current lot, but not massively keen on the other lot.

   Posted 2 years ago #
3. mastiles_fanylion - Member

   They are all different shades but still smell of sh*t.

   Posted 2 years ago #
4. coffeeking - Member

   At the end of the day you're basing your choices on historical performance and predictions of future - not exactly a sound way forward (though I can't think of any better at the moment). If they HAD to fulfil their pledges instead of just making them I'd be more inclined to take notice. If they didn't just back out of things and U turn continuously I'd be more inclined to select an ideal party.

   Things may improve or fall with any party, depending on the available cash and world economy, claiming one is responsible either way is a little odd - sure their policies make some differences, but only trim the overall direction of things generally.

   Show me a world where pledges/policies are legally binding and not weaseled into something less effective (advertising standards anyone?) and I'll vote with more confidence.

   Posted 2 years ago #
5. TandemJeremy - Member

   Thats about the truth of it porterclough

   MF - foundation hospital so I cannot get the budget data easily.
   I would bet my years salery tho that the scbu has had year on year budget increases.

   Posted 2 years ago #
6. mastiles_fanylion - Member

   I would bet my years salery tho that the scbu has had year on year budget increases.

   
   In keeping with inflation and *actual* costs?

   It is also worth bearing in mind that Harrogate and District PCT was performing very well with amazing levels of care and very good budget management for many years. Scarborough PCT was (and still is) hugely in debt. In order to manage this debt, they created a new PCT taking budgets from the Harrogate area and redistributing to the Scarborough area. It was because of this that IVF provision was stopped in 2006. No doubt other services were cut at the same time.

   Posted 2 years ago #
7. konabunny - Member

   We have a two party system (we pretend otherwise).

   
   Not really - parties are coalitions internally two. Most likely we have at least six parties: the left and right wings of Labour and Tories, the completely batshit right wing of the Tory party, and the Lib Dems (which is more of a smear than a bloc). Blair's impact was so strong because he had a Blairite majority so that he didn't have to rely on the left wing of the Labour party.

   And then of course there's the 4 party systems in Wales, NI, and Scotland.

   Posted 2 years ago #

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