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  • Petrol or diesel for chain cleaning?
  • rollindoughnut
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    Recently started whipping the chain off after a ride and giving it a quick wash in petrol. Works incredibly well.
    Just read on another thread that someone at least thinks diesel is the best thing.
    Opinions?

    simondbarnes
    Full Member

    You’d have to be an idiot to want to clean your chain in petrol.

    stumpyjon
    Full Member

    Do you smoke?

    Stoner
    Free Member

    nothing wrong with cleaning the chain in petrol.

    I put it in a jar, give it the ol’ Tom Cruise shuffle and then hangit off a nail in the rafter of the shed.
    Give it a wipe down and let it dry then trickle lube of choice down the chain. let that linger and then give it a wipe and youve got a chain ready to go.

    fivespot
    Free Member

    Are you an adult 🙄

    rollindoughnut
    Free Member

    Didn’t realise people were so scared of flamable things. Hope they don’t have gas cookers 😯
    Nice thing about a soak in lethal fluids is that it must displace all the water from between the links.

    theroadwarrior
    Free Member

    Using petrol is pretty dangerous- the vapors will be extremely flammable.

    Purpose bought degreaser is safer!

    rollindoughnut
    Free Member

    Seriously I hadn’t thought of the safety issues. I’ve usually got a jerry can of the stuff lying around and use it to fuel strimmers, mowers etc as part of my work, have done for many years. I pour about 200ml into a container outside my back door and give the chain a swill in it. It’s highly unlikely that it’ll burst into flames, I mean for Christ sakes you merily squirt 50litres of the stuff into a hot car surrounded by people doing the same without worrying about it.

    This thread has gone in an unanticipated direction.

    Drac
    Full Member

    Didn’t realise people were so scared of flamable things. Hope they don’t have gas cookers

    Light the gas cooker with your face about 2′ feet above the burner and see what happens. Then if your still confident that petrol is no worse light a jar of petrol with your face over it.

    If you don’t report back then we know you’ve tried it.

    IamSam
    Free Member

    I have a jar at work that is a mixture of diesel and engine oil that my chain gets dropped into every week or so, it then get hung on a nail and drains back into the same jar. Two birds with one rather grubby stone. Think petrol is a better cleaner than diesel but this isn’t from experience.

    Stoner
    Free Member

    light a jar of petrol with your face over it.

    Top tip: Dont light a jar of petrol with your face over it. In fact better still dont allow any sources of ignition near petrol fumes. It’s a miracle we havent all already died. 🙄

    jeez, let’s all give up and hand our lives over to the State shall we.

    Stoner
    Free Member

    I dont like cleaning with diesel as the residue can go quite sticky.

    rollindoughnut
    Free Member

    Full marks to Stoner for giving me a sensible reason why not to use diesel rather than getting hysterical.

    globalti
    Free Member

    Petrol is just a much lighter fraction than diesel and will do the same job. However being very light it evaporates fast and fills spaces like garages with flammable fumes. When I was a kid I knew a garage mechanic who sparked up a ciggy in the pit under a car with a petrol leak… he died with over 40% burns.

    You may think you’re safe messing around with petrol but it stinks and there’s no accounting for accidents. Diesel takes much much longer to evaporate, many days in fact so why not just use paraffin or white spirit as a safe and cheap half-way alternative?

    TuckerUK
    Free Member

    Diesel (cleans as it lubes as it lubes as it cleans).

    Never use petrol: highly explosives fumes.

    I’ve been in a petrol fire/explosion…needless to say I survived (extinguisher near to hand), but it might have ended very differently. I’ve never used petrol for chain cleaning since.

    Heating oil (kerosene) is good too, and the cheapest of the lot.

    Dales_rider
    Free Member

    Use white spirit, chain in an old water bottle [wide top] shake well save the fluid and the shit settles out and you can use it again and again and again……..

    bigbloke
    Free Member

    Second the Kerosene option superb cleaner.

    jd-boy
    Free Member

    jiza, is the stuff to use. saying that Im 50 years old and have cleaned up plenty of engine part etc in my life with small amounts of petrol and its really never been an issue. 😯

    Drac
    Full Member

    It just seems silly to me to have such a volatile substance for cleaning a bike part, white spirit is much more stable and works fine but there’s also plenty of degreasers out there without using petrol or diesel.

    rollindoughnut
    Free Member

    Food for thought. As I said never really concerned me. Obviously never used it inside as it would stink the house out but guess there may be a few fumes from the chain after I’ve brought it in.
    May try heating oil as can get hold of that easily.
    Used petrol in the first place as had a can handy and thought I’d try a bit. Really does get the chain shiney in seconds with absolutely no mess/hassle.

    Stoner
    Free Member

    rather depends on what you have around. If you have stores of petrol for mowers/chainsaws/brushcutters/jennies then there’s nothing wrong with using a dash in a jar for cleaning a chain. Why the need for arms in the air a’wailin’ an a’gnashin’ of teeth I dont know.

    Drac
    Full Member

    That makes sense Stoner, I’ve had it stored in my garage before but not in a jar of course but a proper petrol can.

    I’ve seen the consequences of petrol and It’ll be alright, it makes an effective job.

    TheBrick
    Free Member

    Heath and safety warning as it seems some people struggle with dealing with petrol.

    Petrol fumes are flammable*, only use in a well ventilated area away from source of ignition**.

    *Flammable means it burns.

    **A source of ignition means something that is very hot with a plentiful supply of air***. Something like a flame, or a arcing switch.

    ***air is that stuff you breath.

    If adhering to these guidelines is something you feel unable to achieve, please consult a suitable qualified professional.

    wobbliscott
    Free Member

    If you’re going to these lengths then paraffin is the stuff to use. When I was an apprentice paraffin was the cleaning and degreasing agent widely used in industry and I spent hours with my hands in paraffin cleaning parts and it is great stuff (make sure you use gloves), nothing better, other than MEK, but that is highly carcinogenic so best avoid. A bit of overkill either way for a bike chain though.

    pussywillow
    Free Member

    Nowt wrong wi a bit of petrol to clean the chain…. Too many patronising folk on this site.
    I don’t think he’s going be cleaning it in the house next to the fire while smoking a cig…jeez, what do u stw massive do gooders do when it’s bonfire night? I hope u don’t handle fireworks as they can be highly dangerous especially in the wrong hands! Crying out loud, some of u are pathetic!

    Mikeypies
    Free Member

    There are a couple of reasons not to use petrol

    The additives in it are nasty campers in the know will not use it.

    Its very flamable and even if you dont have a naked flame in the shed/garage a light switch or somebody walking past lighting up could ignite the vapor. A lit cigarette will not ignite it but a static spark from your clothes could.

    Use parrafin instead or hot water and washing up liquid and a sonic bath.

    specializedneeds
    Full Member

    Any ‘danger’ aside, what do you do with the dirty petrol? Down the drain is not very responsible. Never had a problem with the natural solvents that bio-degrade TBH.

    Stoner
    Free Member

    I have a special container for dirty petrol/oils/diesel/thinners etc for starting bonfires. Never have more than a pint in there. Use it to drench a rag in the heart of the fire.

    TheBrick
    Free Member

    what do you do with the dirty petrol?

    burn it.

    bradley
    Free Member

    So what about 100% IPA? Any good?

    TheBrick
    Free Member

    Only to drink on hot summers day.

    bradley
    Free Member

    Yeah I work with the stuff on a daily basis, goes down pretty well at the end of a shift…

    Scienceofficer
    Free Member

    I never found diesel to be a very good degreaser.

    Del
    Full Member

    [stw answer]neither. wipe the chain clean, oil the inside of the links, then wipe off excess. if that’s too hard for you go for a synthetic dry lube.[/stw answer]
    😉

    el-Gato-Negro
    Free Member

    +1 for dales rider method

    stufield
    Free Member

    Ok I’ve just bought a petrol lawnmower and I’m storing plastic petrol can in my bike shed rather than green house as didn’t want the plastic to perish in sunlight. Slight smell of petrol each time i go in the shed, is this a ticking time bomb and going to blow up when I hit the light switch before setting off on a night ride.

    nickc
    Full Member

    white spirits > jam jar > shoogie > wipe > lube.

    but petrol is just as good.

    TuckerUK
    Free Member

    I doubt it, I store petrol in a plastic container in the garage too. The petrol vapor/air mix has to be just so to be explosive.

    You can easily reach that mix swilling a chain around in it though!

    rollindoughnut
    Free Member

    Just thinking about how some people may have used hairspray at some point. Now that is seriously flamable and I bet it gets used whilst holding a red hot hair dryer.

    What if I’d suggested filling a plastic tank with 50 litres of petrol and sitting on it whilst travelling at 70mph with a hot engine at my feet and the potential for rather a lot of sparks if I happened to move my hands more than a few degrees.

    Or a tap that if turned on would dispense explosive fumes into my house that could be tamed only if lit by a spark within a few seconds. (a gas hob btw).

    Just musing how we become so accustomed to the things we are told are safe.

    Has anyone seen if the GT85 we so liberally waft over our workshops is flammable? I use spray alchohol to clean stanchions; may do that outside in future thinking about it. 😀

    rollindoughnut
    Free Member

    Worst explosion I’ve ever created was when I poached some pears in a whole bottle of wine. Took the lid off to give it a sniff and burnt the hairs right out the inside of my nose during the resulting blue explosion of flame.
    Wife still takes the piss to this day.

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