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New Berlingo
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I had one of the first of the sliding door Multispace from 2001. It was the 1.6 petrol and nippy enough for me, and the nice soft suspension meant that it drove well on country lanes. The worst thing we found about owning it was the lack of interest from the dealer so we changed to a local specialist who was much more helpful. Have since moved onto a Focus estate, now a C estate (and a T5.1) but might be interested in the 8spd petrol XL in a couple of years as a do it all car.
trail_ratFree Membermr grim .
i had the same issue when i tried to buy a new one from a dealer pretty much had to force him to quote – i ended up buying used mostly for this reason , if my local dealer cannot be bothered with what should have been an easy sale what back up is he going to provide.
FYI the kirkcaldy motability centre is a citroen dealer and were very helpful on the phone, i just didnt see the point to buy a car from a dealer 200 miles away as no matter how helpful they are they were not going to be much help in future but your much closer to them and it may be of some use to you.
MrGrimFull MemberCheers TR. I’ve got two Citroen dealers within 30 miles (Perth and Dunf), but they don’t seem to stock or care about the van derived MPV’s. I’ll check out the place in Kirkcaldy. I only really care about dealer follow up for warranty issues as the garage in the next village do all the servicing with genuine parts and I know that they do a great job. The Landy just gets serviced at home.
If the new lingo is out in the next couple of months I might wait. Otherwise, I’ll get one a couple of years old that’s already taken some of the depreciation hit.
trail_ratFree Memberunless your looking for a petrol/hybrid(of which there appear to have been like 3 sold) one its hard to look past used.
we paid just a shade under half the build ticket price that was in the paperwork for the car for a 15 plate 5000 mile old partner outdoor 1.6HDI….
thats quite an initial depreciation curve
ampthillFull MemberI don’t think I’ll need an XL unless I go for a micro camper. But it is good to see that they do one.
For those that haven’t driven one in think that they drive well. Much better than I expected. I should have bought into them earlier.
Of course for those of us not towing the lower weight just means better mpg
DickBartonFull Member@MrGrim – Stirling has an Arnold Clark Citroën dealer…absolutely terrible Sales Manager but everything else is good and they do tend to get the Berlingo in.
Also a local Peugeot dealer across the road, so likely to get their version in as well.
bikebouyFree MemberI know all about that Duster thingy..
I posted because I do reckon soon they’ll take over the wipe clean/chuck things in/brush the kids sick off the seats/leave filled with bikes and prams/take rubbish to tip at the weekend vehicles.
I went to see one week before last, the FIL is changing his almost crumbling/remophing into its core components Nissan Almera MPV shite box.
I was impressed with the Dusters interior, in boggo version it’s just wipe clean plastic, massive dials for heater and radio, a steering wheel, a stick that lets you change gear, seats that are made from some impenetrable vinyl, doors that open so wide you can almost hit the front lights with the door handle, carpets that a no more than a thick rubberised plastic impervious to muddy boots and cow shit.
It will make a damn fine Farm vehicle..
zilog6128Full MemberThey just need to bring the guy who designed the Fiat Multipla on board and they’re in with a shot of designing the worst looking vehicle ever made!
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<div class=”bbp-reply-content”>@MrGrim – Stirling has an Arnold Clark Citroën dealer…absolutely terrible Sales Manager but everything else is good and they do tend to get the Berlingo in.
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Thanks. I was actually there the other day. The sales lady I spoke to was great but they didn’t have anything I was looking for at the time. If km79 is right about the release date then I’ll wait a couple of weeks until the 18 plates are out then look around for something pre-reg on a 67 or 1-2 years old for a lot less than RRP.
AlexSimonFull MemberThey just need to bring the guy who designed the Fiat Multipla on board and they’re in with a shot of designing the worst looking vehicle ever made!
I always had a soft spot for the Multipla to be honest.
munrobikerFree MemberI love how these new Citroens look. Genuinely interesting and really quite cool. The new C4 Cactus is actually a bit too conservative for my taste compared to the old one, but they’ll sell more because it looks more like everything else.
The XL Berlingo looks really cool, it’d be an ideal extra van at my work. There will be a super basic hose down spec in the range somewhere.
trail_ratFree MemberI posted because I do reckon soon they’ll take over the wipe clean/chuck things in/brush the kids sick off the seats/leave filled with bikes and prams/take rubbish to tip at the weekend vehicles.
if they remove the 4wd and drop the boot floor and give it a sensible sized boot you might be right …. but they would be better just releasing the dokker here as it would save them totally redesigning the duster into something its not.
mick_rFull MemberThose Opel and Peugeot images on page 1 aren’t the real thing – they are just artists impressions that have been knocking round for months (and the Citroen one wasn’t very close to reality).
They all get launched at the Geneva show, production starts proper in May and in dealers around September.
XL looks very interesting – we have an L1H1 Dispatch Combi (previous shape to the Spacetourer) and it is 4.8m long so almost identical to the new Berlingo XL. Maybe ours is a smidge wider and taller, so we can get 6 people in two rows and a massive boot that takes 6 bikes and gear widthways with front wheels out. Really hope they do a full rubber floor (like in our Dispatch).
I notice they do a less trimmed Dispatch MPV (below the Spacetourer) that also still comes registered as an M1 passenger car – live in hope for something similar in Berlingo without dropping to the speed limit hassles of a crew van. They mention lots of storage cubbies in the new Berlingo so guess it will be a bit over-trimmed like the current Multispace – panelled out boot sides / wheelarches rob a lot of useful bike space.
Just hitting 100k on the Dispatch, so will give it a year or two for the bugs to get sorted then might try a Berlingo – or blag a go in Ampthill’s 🙂 (will drop you a mail as I’m working down at Millbrook next week if you’re about).
WallyFull MemberLikewise Mick-r going to give it a year for bugs to be ironed out and then plump for a 130BHP XL auto. Does the XL version always come with 7 seats?
simon_gFull MemberPeugeot Rifter version announced: http://www.peugeot.co.uk/showroom/rifter/
Has the same “dials above the steering wheel” layout as a lot of current Peugeots.
They’ve done a nifty camper/4×4 concept for the Geneva show:
trail_ratFree Memberthat dangel rifter looks the tits , i even quite like that lumo stripe.
i dislike the roof tent and roof bar mind – expect prices on dangel ones to be in the region of 30-35k though. its never been a cheap option
muzzFree MemberMultiplas drove better than they looked. Grippy go carts, low centre of gravity and wide profile, punchy 1.9 diesel engine. Seen some horrors underneath them up here in Scotland though.
Berlingo are good and would be in my top 3 bike wagons along with a Volvo X70 and a Honda CRV in terms of all round package – size, reliability (although maybe pushing it a bit with the Citroen 🙂 drive quality (Volvo I love you) and getting a decent example for under a few £k
smokey_joFull MemberI know this is about new Berlingo’s and the like and it’s probably what I will change my Duster for when they start hitting the 2nd hand market.
Had my Duster for 5 years now and done 40,000 miles – it’s so few because it’s spent a lot of time at the paint shop having rusty panels replaced.
Boot floor is too high and the back seats don’t fold flat – means wheels out for 650b / 29ers or more than 26er / road bike.
Pale material in boot interior sides and roof lining means it’s always grubby.
The alarm is a joke – goes off randomly for no reason.
If you get a AWD version 1st gear is so low that you start pulling away in 2nd, the clutch soon starts to judder after that. It’s noisy and rarely does more than 40mpg.
The pedals are weirdly offset to the drivers seat so it’s horribly uncomfortable after a couple of hours – probably a shonky conversion from LHD to RHD
Oh and depreciation means that if you buy anything other than 2nd hand you need to be able to run it into the ground and not care about changing it every 3 years.
simon_gFull MemberHad email it’s available now, website has spec, configurator, etc. Seems we get pretty much mid-spec upwards, no truly base models like they do in the rest of Europe.
https://www.citroen.co.uk/new-cars-and-vans/citroen-range/new-citroen-berlingo
By autoebid.com pricing, you can take about £5k off in discount, so starting comfortably under £15k.
XL version and some powertrain combos (like the petrol auto) not till next year.
Walkaround (in french – but youtube auto-translate subtitles get the gist) of a 7-seat XL here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL2PlUPRpGo
Rearmost seats have backrest fold horizontal, then whole seat can pitch forward on the front mountings so it’s mostly out of the way. Or remove entirely for a clear flat floor. Pretty much like the old Espace or Galaxy before these fold-into-the-floor seats that eat up vertical space.
mick_rFull MemberWe cracked and got an XL Dispatch crew van :-). They’ve done a great job of that so I expect the Bingo will be equally well sorted (same platform apart from back axle).
Prices have always generally been about 20% off list (we got 25% off the pre-VAT price).
ClinkFull MemberWe cracked and got an XL Dispatch crew van :-). They’ve done a great job of that so I expect the Bingo will be equally well sorted (same platform apart from back axle).
Prices have always generally been about 20% off list (we got 25% off the pre-VAT price).
Main dealer?
mick_rFull MemberAny main dealer we’ve ever seriously talked to. We have a great family owned local dealer which we tend to prefer – if we could face using the bigger chains then we’ve actually been offered a smidge more.
I know they’ve been selling every end of line Berlingo Multispace they could get so there weren’t any big clearance offers. Maybe early prices of the new one will be a bit firmer (maybe 10-15%). In a year I’d be expecting 20% (but not sure what Brexit will do). The “Vauxhall Dispatch” is supposed to be getting built in Luton, so maybe Berlingo / Combo will end up there??? (Dispatch is built at SEVEL in France, Berlingo in Spain)
squirrelkingFree Member<p>That looks seriously good, I’ll keep an eye out in ten years time when they come into my price bracket :P</p><p></p><p>(In all seriousness that ticks a lot of boxes for me)</p>
DickBartonFull MemberOuch, a serious step up in price…Berlingo has 2 options and a real difference between both, Rifter has 3 and a stark difference between Base and top, but not so obvious between mid and top.
Top end is very pricey.
Saying that, they do look good. My current one was the top-end but bought second hand so that’ll be how the next one is bought…ideally XL…
I’m still liking them, just surprised at pricing as I’ve not looked at brand new for years. Seem well species though so not like a complete rip-off, just more expensive than my out-of-date assumption on price is.
5labFull Memberbroadspeed already has some fairly hefty discounts on offer
XL starting at £16,400 after £5k off. Seems reasonable
Gary_CFull MemberWe’ve had one in the showroom at work for the last month, ‘Flair’ trim spec with the XTR trim option. Also have two of the lower ‘Feel’ spec ones on site.
The new Berlingo van will be arriving by the end of this year too, & the front end on that is just like the latest Dispatch van/Spacetourer people carrier rather than the Multispaces style
ClinkFull MemberI’m interested in the new van version – XL crew van with grip control hopefully. Perfect for bikes and trips away.
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