For being a bad man with early teens over a 30 year spell.

Whilst we were at school friends would complain about his improper conduct, mostly girls being touched by him. He got away with it all it the time but finally has pleaded guilty to 14 counts.

Sends shivers down my back to recall the stories and the anger we had when after we left we heard he was still doing it.

Kinda feeling empty now that he should’ve been stopped back then.

Horrid horrid man.

One of my teachers got done similarly, RE teacher and a big Christian as I recall- even bigger hypocrite.

we had an art teacher that was asked to leave after inviting to many girls back to clean the kilns out during lunch break.
when you look back loads of stuff didnt get dealt with the way it should have been.

We had a PE teacher who would tell us to stick our hands down our shorts and ‘wrap them round our goolies’ to keep warm. He would do the same thing. He would also come and stand on the edge of the showers and watch us soaping up and shout encouragement at us.

Looking back I realise he was a dirty old perv but it was nice to be naive back then.

Headmaster at my (mixed, boarding) prep school openly admitted he fancied one of the girls.

When it was his turn to patrol the dorms at lights out he’d sit on one of the girl’s beds an slide his hand beneath the sheets.

Several teachers at my school had relationships with sixth formers, it wasn’t tachnically an offence back in those days as the abuse of power rules or whatever they are called weren’t in.

The metal work teacher who did it was married to one of the english teachers as well!

A friend of mine married her economics teacher, 12 years older than her. “Nothing happened” until they “bumped” into each other “by chance” her first trip home from Poly. Sounds dodgy looking back, but they are about to celebrate their 20th anniversary with their three kids, so it worked out OK.

At 6th form I remember one of the art teachers who had been up to no good with one of his pupils (she was 17 so it wasn’t exactly kiddie-fiddling) being hidden by the metal work teacher (my form teacher) in the design centre store room until he sobered up / calmed down after her dad came in to beat the crap out of him.

She was fit. He was a knob.

This was 25 years ago. I should imagine if it happened today it would be dealt with differently.

No, any person in a position of trust and authority who uses that to form relationships with kids is slime whether they keep it barely legal or not.

agree

when did mother nature tell you what she intended?

One of my teachers got done similarly, RE teacher and a big Christian as I recall- even bigger hypocrite.

We might have gone to the same school 😯

Now it is,quite correctly a breach of trust.If you taught him/her as a 17yo,you taught them as a 12yo.When did the attraction start exactly? I was at school in the 70’s and 80’s,like a lot of the posters we had the creepy teacher.I can say hand on heart that if that was to go on now,the staff would make a complaint before any pupil got the chance.

I believe at least five of my teachers were convicted of various dodgy offences after I left school. I think two have since committed suicide the others have moved far away and are keeping a low profile.

Bound to happen really, any job that involves contact with kids is going to attract people like this. Hopefully the safeguards that are in place now are stringer than they were back then…

TuckerUK does have a point, albeit mixed up with an interesting way of phrasing it. Adolescents that have reached the point where they can reproduce have long been pointed out as being more attractive by anthropologists. However, and this is the biggie, we as humans have control over all our actions and IMHO teaching staff should be able to maintain sufficient professional standards such that they do not become involved with their students, even if it is technically legal.

RE: The “peadophile” thing – I always thought there was a dictionary definition i.e. sexual attraction to prepubscents. As well as a legal definition, sexual attraction to children under the age of consent. I may well be wrong with this though.

My teacher from last year in primary school: http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4739537.Paedophile_Brindle_headteacher_jailed/

Seems his offences took place after he’d left that school but who knows.

One of my teachers got done similarly, RE teacher and a big Christian as I recall- even bigger hypocrite.

We might have gone to the same school

I was just thinking that myself. Catholic School by any chance? I had an RE teacher (and deputy head) who was the real “You’re all sinners!!!! And you’ll burn in hell” type

I know two girls who he touched up after luring them into some very dubious situations. Tosser!!!

My old Deputy Head / Art Teacher / RE Teacher got done for (allegedly) feeling girls (allegedly to see if they’d started wearing a bra) a short while after I’d left. Strange thing was we thought he was really in to boys.

Head teacher at same school was forced to leave for basically being a pansy.

Year Head at same school was forced to leave for bullying and humiliation. There was a weekly award for the naughtiest person of the week, which was to wear a vandalised toilet seat round the neck for the duration of that week’s assembly. Something we saw funny, but obviously when all this PC nonsense came in, some parent (of the schools biggest vandal, ASBO/detty collector) decided it was breach of human rights 🙄

AFAIK all were just “asked to leave”. Would be court case and signing a register now.

My mom told me about when she was about 12, her friend was touched up by one of the teachers. She told my mom, and her mom told her to tell her parents. Her parents told her to keep quiet and to never speak of it again, because otherwise she’d bring shame on the family.

A few years later the teacher was the subject of a police manhunt, because he did a runner with a 14 year old girl. My mom and her friend always felt a bit guilty that they’d kept quiet because he’d just kept on molesting girls, but it was the early 50s so it was difficult.

At our school we had a teacher who everyone called ‘Creepy Clarkey’. No girl wanted to be left alone with him, ever. Don’t know if he ever got done for anything though. I remember he once had to take over one of the PE sessions, and he got a girl to stand on a bench to retrieve a shuttlecock from one of the nets on the wall, and he was blatantly looking up her skirt.

Hopefully the safeguards that are in place now are stringer than they were back then…

Guess what one of the savings the government are making is…

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miketually – Member

Hopefully the safeguards that are in place now are stringer than they were back then…

Guess what one of the savings the government are making is…
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They’re legalising noncing?

If you’re referring to overhauling the CRB system then good, it’s rubbish.

miketually – Member

Hopefully the safeguards that are in place now are stringer than they were back then…

Guess what one of the savings the government are making is…

…teaching english?

A stringer is a beam isn’t it?

bravohotel8er is bang on. The CRB system is absolutely ludicrous. Completely farcical!!! It takes pointless bureaucracy to unimagined new levels. Even by completely mental New Labour standards. I’m sure that they were aiming for a point where every adult would have to have one as a matter of course. Probably every other week

My beloved works in the charity sector. As each CRB checks is non-transferable, she has to get a new one with every new organisation she encounters. She’s presently had about 9,360 I think. They seem to be every other day. Every one of them time-consuming, expensive and utterly and completely unnecessary.

I’d love to see the figures to see if all this pointlessness has had even the slightest effect on incidents of kiddy-fiddling. I reckon I know the answer to that one though

My beloved works in the charity sector. As each CRB checks is non-transferable, she has to get a new one with every new organisation she encounters. She’s presently had about 9,360 I think. They seem to be every other day. Every one of them time-consuming, expensive and utterly and completely unnecessary.

That’ll stay.

It’s the ISA that’s being scaled back, where you’d only need to register once.

RE teacher and a big Christian as I recall- even bigger hypocrite.
We might have gone to the same school

Me too! Was he a condescending hypcrite who judged everyone else while applying an entirely different ruleset to his own values?

Scottish system is changing next month to a ‘passport’ type system where you get one Scottish Criminal Records Office check done, and it follows you around. I don’t know the full details of how it’s going to work yet, as my organisation’s training event isn’t until next week, but it sounds hopeful.

Happens a lot by the sounds of things. At my school there used to be a lot of sixth-form / teacher shenanigans (pretty much 100% male teacher / female pupil) but this was stomped out by the time I left. All kept very discrete at the time, might have been ‘frowned’ upon but was certainly tolerated – those I knew about the teacher was usually in their early twenties.

We had a music teacher who was known to be a bit ‘dodgy’ – would invite boys back to his for ‘recitals’ (usually involving alcohol and cigarettes) but how he got away with it for so long is a mystery. I think he left ‘under a cloud’. There was the PE teacher with a penchant for spraying a cold water hose on boys backs whilst they swam in the pool, he was sacked for some sort of improper conduct too.

The most infamous example was when we had a new, young science teacher join the school. Looked just like Mr Muscle from the cleaning ads. Was very ‘right-on’ and involved in sports clubs etc, big in the youth-church locally too; they all thought he was fantastic. Which I’m sure he was until he invited a bunch of lads back to his after football. He then proceeded to ply a couple of them with alcohol, get completely plastered himself and then, in a state of undress, make a series of indecent propositions to one particular lad. Who, being resolutely straight and built like the proverbial outhouse with a temper, proceeded to lay him out flat before calling his Dad, followed by the police.

We didn’t see him again…

BlobOnAStick – Member

…teaching english?

A stringer is a beam isn’t it?

Oi! Cut me some slack, “stringer” should’ve been “stronger”. “o” and “i” are next to each other on the keyboard!

<grumble> Bl**dy STW pedants, picking up on the slightest mistake, not like they’re always perfect, mutter, mutter…</grumble>

😉

Oi! Cut me some slack, “stringer” should’ve been “stronger”. “o” and “i” are next to each other on the keyboard!

No excuse. Some people deserve bumming. 😉

One of my primary school teachers was done for having dodgy porn (on a departmental, non-user-specific laptop). He was eventually equitted as no-one could prove it was him and not someone else who borrowed the laptop before him, including his cleaner who had access as there were few security measures then, but had to go on the sex offenders register anyway. He’s now out of work. He was the best teacher we ever had in primary school, organised all the trips away, took kids on outdoor ed weekends (and no, ntohing ever happened). He was genuinely one of the good guys and was shot in the face by a paranoid and idiotic world.

I lost count of the times I was bedded by voluptuous women teachers during my early teens. 😉

Fair point Harry.

<assumes position>

It’s for your own good.

A teacher we had we used to call him Benny B….., he would only select the good loooking lads to be in his class, he always drew the blinds on his classroom on the ground floor when we where in there, and he also invited some of the fitter looking lads to his house, strangely they always got better marks than me, who wasnt invited, he also had a hatred of the girl students but would chat up the female staff quite often.

He was a horrible teacher, full of his self importance, and taught me very little about the subject, but a lot about mankind, it was the way he used to look at you, a look between hatred and lust, strangely last time i saw him he had a minibus full of young lads ,taking them to another school.

Finally he was married to cover up his perversions.

@ Peyote: 😳 sorry, I thought you meant “more stringent”.

I’ll pish off now….. 😉

project – Member

A teacher we had we used to call him Benny B….., he would only select the good loooking lads to be in his class, he always drew the blinds on his classroom on the ground floor when we where in there, and he also invited some of the fitter looking lads to his house, strangely they always got better marks than me,

This just tells us you’re a munter 🙂

re the CRB it is far from perfect but I dont really see how letting unregulated and [largely] unsupervised access to kids /vulnerable adults will help the situation. Sadly abusers are drawn to occupations where they will have access to abuse. It is very difficult to abuse a person without direct contact obviously henc ethey choose jobs with access. By making this easier it is hard to see how this has reduced risk. They are now transferable and have been for a while Binners that is an individual authority decision FWIW – 6 mths is transferable iirc.
It is this typically strange attitude whereby the public are annoyed by checks [ I am not a nonce what do you mean offended stance] and annoyed when people in positions abuse[ PC gone mad, why cant we stop these monsters etc]. We really need to decide which is the lesser of two evils here. See also social workers who remove or dont remove kids for a similarly contradictory attitude.
re stopping offenders who knows but Huntely and others could not get jobs now so one would assume it has had an effect and possibly saved lives. Bit hard to check as I dount we will do a double blind study.

sorry to throw this in to such a discussion, but has anyone else got a google advert for “Britain’s dream teachers” when viewing this thread?!

Coffeeking, that wasn’t in Dundee was it?

Coffeeking, that wasn’t in Dundee was it?

Nope, south of the border.

Posters with dodgy teachers: state school or public school?

has pleaded guilty to 14 counts.

typo?

Posters with dodgy teachers: state school or public school?

State.

typo?

? Why?