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Mojo Kashima Upgrade Program

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S_J - Member

Quite tempted by this given that my 32 Floats need a service anyway and I'm currently running a 1 1/8th steerer on a 1.5 taper frame, figure I could kill two birds with one stone. This might be a stupid question, but is there any reason why you couldn't change 1 1/8th uppers for 1.5 tapered uppers on a fork that was originally standard? I'm assunming all the width's and offsets are the same regardless of the steerer??

Prices:
Includes Full service, any additional parts will be charged at their usual price.

32MM Fork service with 1-1/8" Kashima CSU £254.00
32MM Fork service with 1.5" Taper Kashima CSU £264.00
32MM Talas Fork service with 1-1/8" Kashima CSU £264.00
32MM Talas Fork service with 1.5" Taper Kashima CSU £274.00
36MM Fork service with 1-1/8" Kashima CSU* £311.00
36MM Fork service with 1.5" Taper Kashima CSU* £322.00

Float Shock Service with Kashima body & Kashima Standard Air can £176.00
Float Shock Service with Kashima body & Kashima XV Air can £196.00
DHX Air Shock Service with Kashima body & Kashima Standard Air can £194.00
DHX Air Shock Service with Kashima body & Kashima XV Air can £214.00
DHX RC4 Service with Kashima Shaft £136.00

Posted 7 months ago #
greeble - Member

on a similar note....

I have a set of 1.5 taper fox 32's that I want to run on a non taper frame.. hint hint fancy a swap of csu's?

Posted 7 months ago #
S_J - Member

Are they Kashima?? because the one's I've got a the mo aren't...

Posted 7 months ago #
z1ppy - Member

The only reasons I can think of:
You'll potentially kill it's resale value, as not many bike have a 1.5 compatible headtube, so the market is limited... though if you mean to keep them until the die, this won't matter.

What the current 2nd hand value of your fork? Would this and the added cost of the upgrade, buy your some new replacements with a 1.5 steerer?
(as above, even new 1.5 steerer forks, can be reduced substantially by the shops at this time off year)

Posted 7 months ago #
nuke - Member

My 32 TALAS are due a service but what program to get....FIT upgrade program or Kashima upgrade program? Only one way...etc, etc

Personally I reckon FIT over Kashima (Although Kashima will look pretty) in terms of performance/weight improvement

:edit: Might be dumb question but do you get the old CSU back on the Kashima program?

Posted 7 months ago #
ruscle - Member

Get the FIT damper, best upgrade on my talas, then use fork juice. I have to add compression tuning when using fork juice. I also swapped the uppers out for a tapered steerer.

Posted 7 months ago #
jonnyvegas - Member

Mmm Best upgrade id say is Rock Shox LOL

Posted 7 months ago #
Northwind - Member

Mmm, my RP23 needs to go back to get its push tune changed, quite tempted now to get the kashima upgrade...

Posted 7 months ago #
greeble - Member

s j no they arn't kashima they came of 150mm float 32's

Posted 7 months ago #
foxyrider - Member

Get the FIT damper, best upgrade on my talas, then use fork juice.

Mine are in @ Loco for the very same - looking forward to the results!!

Posted 7 months ago #
dirtyrider - Member

whats the difference between the aircans? XV versus standard

i assume with teh float service, they will just sick my internals in the kashima chassis?

Posted 7 months ago #
uplink - Member

New 2012 model forks are available from the US for around £500
So only £250 more than the Kashima upgrade from Mojo

How much would you get for your old forks on eBay

Posted 7 months ago #
dirtyrider - Member

i got some 140 talas kashima terralogics from coloradocycles the guy was a dick, blatently lied about shipping for 2 weeks, came within 4 days of actually shipping

Posted 7 months ago #
uplink - Member

i got some 140 talas kashima terralogics from coloradocyclesthe guy was a dick the guy was a dick

I've had 2 lots from him and found him polite and honest
his ebay feedback seems to suggest most buyers are happy with him

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=coloradocycles&ftab=AllFeedback

Posted 7 months ago #
Buttscratcher - Member

Kashima upgrade would really improve the longevity of the uppers, stiction is a real plus, but the increased life is what would sell it for me.

Posted 7 months ago #
greeble - Member

Buttscratcher

Is it the fact that they are bling shiney looking that you look after the fork more?

Posted 7 months ago #
dirtyrider - Member

his ebay feedback seems to suggest most buyers are happy with him

mine were outside of eBay,

he couldn't provide proof of shipping, said they were stuck in customs, i had 3 different tracking numbers in a 2 week period,

Posted 7 months ago #
paul123 - Member

if you buy them from the sates and they go wrong do you have to send them back over there?

Posted 7 months ago #
ruscle - Member

If you look after them they won't go wrong and mojo are very good with their service sorting me out many times for no fee.

Posted 7 months ago #
Paceman - Member

FIT Damper upgrade will make more difference than Kashima in my opinion.

Fork Juice works too

Posted 7 months ago #
julians - Member

I had the FIT damper upgrade performed on some 2005 36 talas R forks, it was worthwhile, a significant improvement in damping and I got the RC2 damping adjustments rather than just the being able to alter the rebound. They feel exactly the same as a 2011 36 fork now.

The kashima upgrade looks pretty pricey in comparison and I think of questionable value.

Posted 7 months ago #
greeble - Member

fork juice by juice lubes? egghhh! mojo will tell you to never use that stuff the damage it causes to forks is unreal!

Posted 7 months ago #
Ecky-Thump - Member

The kashima upgrade looks pretty pricey in comparison and I think of questionable value.

but sounds like the most beneficial/cost effective way to recover your forks if you are one of the countless thousands who have seen their stanchions grooved prematurely.
I think I was quoted something like £250 for the CSU previously, plus service cost. So £250 inc service sounds a bit better. I might even resurrect my Float RLs and get then done as a spare.

Posted 7 months ago #
S_J - Member

To my mind, as it's £100ish plus postage just for a service (postage is free with the upgrade), I'm happy to pay the extra for the upgrade, which for me is running the correct size steerer tube as well as the blingy coating so it's worth doing. As a purely cosmetic exercise I'm not so sure though.

Posted 7 months ago #
nuke - Member

Mine are in @ Loco for the very same - looking forward to the results!!

Out of interest what price is Loco charging?

Posted 7 months ago #
Ecky-Thump - Member

Correction to my previous post, specifically cost of CSUs.
I've just got off the phone from Mojo.

For PART only (32RL), costs are:
CSU (hard anodised) = £134
CSU (Kashima) = £184
FIT cartridge = £184

For upgrades (inc service)
Kashima CSU = £254
FIT = £249

So, if wanting both, the most cost effective combination is the FIT upgrade (inc service) plus the Kashima CSU (as a part) = £433..... OUCH! I think I'd be looking at a new fork!

Posted 7 months ago #
oliverd1981 - Member

[/quote]but sounds like the most beneficial/cost effective way to recover your forks if you are one of the countless thousands who have seen their stanchions grooved prematurely.[quote]

Sounds like an expensive solution to forks which any right minded person would class as being defective.

Posted 7 months ago #
Ecky-Thump - Member

^^^ Yeah, oliverd1981, I wouldn't argue with your assessment. There is a reason why the Floats are sat in a corner of the garage

Posted 7 months ago #
Paceman - Member

fork juice by juice lubes? egghhh! mojo will tell you to never use that stuff the damage it causes to forks is unreal!

HHmmm never heard that before.

Posted 7 months ago #
greeble - Member

Paceman Ring mojo and ask them if its ok to use on forks?

Posted 7 months ago #
hambl90 - Member

I've had 2 lots from him and found him polite and honest
his ebay feedback seems to suggest most buyers are happy with him

Uplink , did you have to pay any extra to get them through customs ?

Posted 7 months ago #
foxyrider - Member

Out of interest what price is Loco charging?

Std Service rate http://locotuning.co.uk/fox-racing-shox-service.html & and then internals I think about £160 I think?

Posted 7 months ago #
uplink - Member

Uplink , did you have to pay any extra to get them through customs ?

£29 VAT and Handling

Posted 7 months ago #
dirtyrider - Member

i didnt, he marked them as a warranty return fork

Posted 7 months ago #
uplink - Member

i didnt, he marked them as a warranty return fork

Mine were marked warranty too, it just depends on the inspector at the time
Not complaining at £29 though

Posted 7 months ago #