Anybody noticed that all the people who have genuine experience in recruiting say "don't ask" but plenty of people are still telling you its a good idea to?
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Job Interview Question - asking the money question
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Posted 2 years ago #
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I'd ask in the first interview. Just spit it out when they ask you if you have any questions. The advert didn't mention the salary, what is it?
I've declined second interviews on the basis of crap salaries, don't waste your time running around to be offered less than you are prepared to take. If they say it's negotiable, negotiate, Got an extra 5% on the advertised for my current job for saying I was expecting more and could they do anything about it.
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Being a graduate/entry position and first interview I would probably not bring the subject of salary up unless the interviewer(s) gave you a specific lead.
I fully agree with the not wasting your time if the salary is far below your expectations etc but if you are time rich at the moment then the experience will be good experience etc. Such advice IMO seems better suited to people with a few years experience and a proven track record that supports their existing salary etc.
I would have thought that you have some idea of what typical graduate starting salaries are this year and some notion of whether the employer is likely to be toward the top end or very possibly lower than the mean.
I suspect there is very little room for any negotiation this year as if there ever was for graduate entrants. This year has been very tough for new graduates and competition is more fierce than ever. I would not want to risk alienating a prospective employer with unrealistic expectations of my own worth unless I had very good grounds and would be perfectly happy to walk away with no offer. Again a position easier for those currently in work and with a regular income.
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BigJohn - Member
Anybody noticed that all the people who have genuine experience in recruiting say "don't ask" but plenty of people are still telling you its a good idea to?
I have experience in recruiting and I'd not wait to be asked. I expect to provide that information up front, otherwise the whole process can be a complete waste of time.
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Anybody noticed that all the people who have genuine experience in recruiting say "don't ask" but plenty of people are still telling you its a good idea to?
Not strictly true - I have recruited every single person in both my companies. The thing is that salary/package etc is a factor for consideration in any job. An interview is a two way street - do they want you and more importantly do you want THEM?. The remuneration is a factor in that equation so I would expect them to set the stall out or at least give you a lead. If its not profferred then you have a right to enquire in my opinion. Unless you are totally desparate for a job then get what you are given.
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As its a graduate job, wait for the offer letter.
No point asking out-of-turn, nor the wrong person.
Is it public or private sector?
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Phone them up before the interview and see if its even worth turning up.
You're only a student for a bit longer so there's no point wasting valuable drinking time is there.
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BigJohn you have it right. At first graduate interview time, unless you have some un-imaginably unique set of skill that are in demand (pretty unlikely at the moment) - the cards are with the employers. You should wait until being asked in an interview, until prompted or at first offer. Once you have an offer negotiate as far as you can push it (you'll never have a better oppertunity). Once you are up the greasy pole with experience and hopefully a good track record then you can play hardball with salary negotiations or turn down jobs out of hand due to insufficient pay, but not at the first stage.
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Anybody noticed that all the people who have genuine experience in recruiting say "don't ask" but plenty of people are still telling you its a good idea to?
Anyone notice that he has missed those that have experience in recruiting and said it's perfectly fine.
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In the end I just asked him what the benefits were at the end, on the way out of the official interview. He just repeated the "competitive salary" splurge so I left it there.
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Just ask at the end when they say any questions. Perfectly resonable question.
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I'd get it in well early. Just after " is there any decent badger in the office ? "
Based on one of my interviewers yesterday, this question didn't really need to be asked!
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