Sadly, the plans we have for our living room this year mean that the old faithful CRT (with its excellent picture) is going to have to go.
A flat panel - not sure what yet - will go in its place flat against a wall. My BIL suggested to me that a flat panel TV on the wall is "pleberian"*, and that it ought to go onto a nice piece of furniture.
Being middle class, I ought to have a natural aversion to a large TV anyway, but apparently times have changed....
*my word du jour
[i]I ought to have a natural aversion to a large TV[/i]
it's all about having a screen that's in proportion to the side of the room it's in. If the sacreen take sup most of one wall it's too big.
re: location - flat on the wall does rather limit where you can put furniture.
Please don't put it above a fireplace - you'll get neck ache and it's like sitting in the front row of the cinema - great if you're under 10 but otherwise not optimum.
I would say worrying about the social image of your room arrangement is pretty Hyacinth Bucket, personally, and she was working class wasn't she? To be honest if you want to avoid looking like a chav your best bet is to get a reasonable sized one not a monster.
Wall mounted 40" here.
The problem occurs when it's the focal point of the room.
If you have a nice fireplace and then put the tv on a different wall, then it looks ok imo.
Your BIL is jealous. HTH.
wall mounted 26" in the corner here. nice viewing but doesn't dominate the room
Well I put our new flat screen up on a bracket yesterday . . . and took it down to day.
Cables dangling down the wall annoying and it looks like something out of the bookies, so its back on a small table whilst we look for a nice piece of furniture to stand it on.
So BIL is correct, but I prefer 'tasteless' 😆
Hth
Marko
Televisions are a little crass these days. Most people of standing use a projector now. 🙂
Dave
I don't see what all the fuss is about myself.
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Our gas engineer told me that flat screens on walls is 'all the rage in Stretford' at the moment. 😆
your brother in law's insinuation is correct while at the same time he may well be suffering from having sand in his plebiscus..
plebeian not pleberian surely 🙂 Pleb!
The occupants of the 'considerably richer than yow' houses I ride past on my way back from the Chase at night all have TVs on their walls.
In some cases the TV is the wall.
Dark red wall coverings are also all the rage dahling
Oh, dear God ! - you'd entertain the opinion of a man without a classical education ?pleberian
Though I think he may have been correct about 10 years ago
If I could get ours onto the wall at a sensible height and with the cables properly routed, I would
His BIL calls it 'pleberian' hence the '(sic)'.
you other plebs should have spotted that 😉
massive TVs are awesome. hth
Btw ours is on the wall because it allows it to be up high in a better viewing position, and it lets us put low furniture along the wall too.
plebeian not pleberian surely
There's always one pendant.
I'm getting an attic conversion done at the moment. The TV that's going up there will be mounted on the wall.
Before you know it I'll be claiming to be working class 😉 That'll make some of the tryhards jealous 🙂
The trouble is that it always needs to connect to something, so your cable box / DVR / DVD player / games console / etc needs to be housed in somewhere. Usually that's some sort of boxy furniture that the TV may as well sit on.
You have the problem of cables too - ideally you do this at redecorating time and properly chase the cables into the wall. A line of plastic conduit running down looks almost as bad as the cables themselves out on view.
Finally, most people who wallmount stick them way too high (people who use a chimneybreast for this are especially guilty), you don't want to be looking up the whole time.
Fine in a bedroom (if you must have a TV in there), with any boxes hidden elsewhere, I can't think of any wallmounts I've seen in a lounge that I'd actually want myself.
Pleberian? Hmmmmmmmmm. Depends really..... Are you planning on watching Sky Sports constantly? While sat in your pants, can of Stella in hand, loudly swearing at it?
If you're going to do it, do it properly eh...... 😀
We have wall mounted TV's in my office, the kids play room and a swivel wall mount thing in our bedroom, which is a funny shape, so we can watch it from bed, or from a chair.
The one in the front room is quite boring and on a stand with the TiVo and Surround sound boxes.
Looks quite neat with the cables plastered in, but still limiting as to where you connect your stuff, like PS3 in my office, Wii and Blu Ray in kids room and TiVo in our bedroom
EDIT: - Simon G +1
Ours is mounted on the wall as its a rented house and the owner agreed to leave the bracket in place. Thankfully its not above a traditional fireplace and therefore miles off the floor and giving us neck strain. The cables are hidden behind white trunking, which sounds horrendous, but on the white walls, you really don't notice it. I certainly didn't when we viewed the house 😆
Your social class is inversely proportional to the size of your TV and the amount of facebook friends you have 🙂
imo one of the best things about flat screen TV's is that they can go on the wall; Assuming (as has been noted) that the screen is appropriately sized for the room and that it's done properly (i.e. concealed cables; wall mounted speakers to match etc).
In our living room this has the additional benefit that the 'media unit' now doubles as emergency seating (assuming the TV is off)
I'm starting to wander if Bob Hoskins' proboscis is in fact a prosthesis..
That's it binners. You've made my mind up. My living room will be a palace like this:
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Depends on the room, small room + big telly on wall doesn't look good, but gets it further away. Bit of furniture under it and hide all the cables for me, glass door to keep dust out but let remotes work.
Dark red wall coverings are also all the rage dahling
I haven't been all the rage for a long time.
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That's a 40", there's usually a console in the big space below, but it went upstairs for kids at new years party and hasn't come back yet.
mounted on the wall, cables hanging down = pleberian
mounted [b]in[/b] the wall with cables hidden = middle class
What's the name of the TV woman who lives in and renovated a manor house? Because they put a piece of glass in front of the TV to hide it when not in use. Proper middle class or total denial, can't remember which.
Nope what really awful is those beds that have a TV rising out of the foot board. Is that so you can watch a grumbleflick whilst on the job? How vulgar.
Quite frankly I'd rather not have to look at Krusty Wart(Kirsty Wark) when im lying in bed if its all the same to you.
as long as it hangs at eye level (when your sitting) and has nothing below it, i.e all cables etc in the wall behind the telly
oh and it should be LED with a ultra slim mount as this combo will ensure the thinest possible profile
my lounge tv is fitted as described and it looks fine, the kitchen tv is actually recessed into the wall to it has no side profile at all
Do the 'plans' not involve not having to scrap the old TV? Or is it to turn it into some kind of modernist showhome?
mounted in the wall with cables hidden = middle class
Yay!
TVs are all 'pleberian', wall-mounted or otherwise.
(or maybe i'm just saying that because i was too lazy to sort out an external aerial after the digital switchover last summer)
This is mine:
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My brother in law has mounted his close to 50" screen high up on the wall making the smallish room look like a cinema. He also has the 3 games consoles set up there; not really my thing.
Having said that...I have a double door in a recess at one end of my sitting room and plan to put mine in the gap when I decide to change from the CRT. Will take up to 46" I think, can't really hang it on a wall as there isn't one so some sort of stand will be needed which I think is a shame as will take more floor space and I'd like it a couple of feet off the ground.
Do the 'plans' not involve not having to scrap the old TV? Or is it to turn it into some kind of modernist showhome?
Current TV occupied a corner of the living room. This is to be replaced with a logburner. Current CRT will be relegated to the room over the garage, which currently houses piles of books, CDs, DVDs, etc.
House was built in the mid 60s, so is suitably modernist (arguably on the cusp of being post modern). I like modernism.
TVs are all 'pleberian', wall-mounted or otherwise.
WHAT?!!! Even if you've got BBC4 on?
That's pure class Elf, love it.
Elfin - I've seen exactly that setup in a pub - brilliant 🙂
Current TV occupied a corner of the living room. This is to be replaced with a logburner. [s]Current CRT[/s] [b]I[/b] will be relegated to the room over the garage, which currently houses piles of books, CDs, DVDs, etc.
FTFY 😉
That's pure class Elf, love it.
You like that one, innit? 😀
We've just swapped our 19" LCD (bought off my little brother when he upgraded to a bigger one) to a 27" LCD (which was the one my little brother previously upgraded; he's got a bigger one now; didn't cost us a penny).
At 34, I have still never bought a new TV 🙂
It's stood on a shelf/cupboard thingy as we'd need one for DVDs and stuff anyway. I'd not like it wall mounted as it's in a corner of the room down the side of the chimney so would be at a weird angle to the sofa. And, because of wires and that.
Other benefit of wall mounting is the toddler can't stand smack bang infront of it blocking everyone else's view.
Your social class is inversely proportional to the size of your TV and the amount of facebook friends you have
I don't have a Facebook account or a TV - I must be King of England. And here was me thinking it made me an antisocial luddite.
Other benefit of wall mounting is the toddler can't stand smack bang infront of it blocking everyone else's view.
A colleague and his wife were so pleased with their first child, they went for another. Only to have twins. He calls them the Wrecking Crew.
He went into the living room one day to find them bouncing a chair off the screen of his non-wall mounted plasma TV. Ouch!
* Captain Flashheart to the Forum please *
He'll know. 😀
Just thinking back to when I was a wee girl, my parents had a TV that was inside a tasteful mahogany cabinet. To view, the doors were opened.
Personally, I just don't get this need for a huge monstrosity. Mine's the smallest size flatscreen and I still think it's a bit in your face. Not on the wall obviously.
Really couldn't comment about whether wall-hung is chavtastic. 🙄
Elf - good pic. 🙂
Omitn I assume you've seen this:
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molly - that's genius..!
😯 😆 at mol's pic
Is that gloss, Mol?
Please tell me it is... 😆
Bloody eck, it's taken 3 months 12 days and no idea how many hours and minutes, not to mention four or five bans, but he's finally made me laugh...
That leftwingsinglespeedridingarguementativeegomaniacalkeyboardwarrior...
edit: answer to OP - yes its chavtastic.
Please don't put it above a fireplace - you'll get neck ache and it's like sitting in the front row of the cinema - great if you're under 10 but otherwise not optimum.
I don't get this. We have our CRT on the floor at the moment as we've not bought a flat screen yet, well we have but it's on the bedroom wall, but the previous house owner had one above the fireplace and quite frankly it seems like the best place for it. Out of the way, not particularly high and doesn't require straining of the neck. I find myself sat in the sofa with a bent neck with the classical CRT on a stand, with it on the wall I get to put my neck in a nice vertical straight position and look just over horizonally. But I can only see that being worse for a 10 year old due to their diminutive stature.
That may be one of the best pics ever taken. I love the little brother in it.. and the fact that Sesame street or whatever it is is still playing underneath the paint.
I've wall mounted ours, well stair mounted as we have stairs with chunk banisters in the lounge. Is much tidier like this and has given us more room, the stairs also provide a nice neat out of the way place to hide the dvd player and amp. Cables are complete hidden too without drilling anything.
That may be one of the best pics ever taken. I love the little brother in it.. and the fact that Sesame street or whatever it is is still playing underneath the paint.
Had a similar thing many years ago where the gf and I decided to have a Sunday lie in and put the little one (2 yrs old) in the living room to watch TV. Everything was fine and dandy, I even went to the loo and saw the little one watching the tele, wasn't sure how comfortable he was with so much glare from the sun. About an hour later we decided that the little 'un was too quite. A large and at the time quite expensive tub of E45 had been smeared all over the TV screen, not the TV in general, just the screen. 😯
Justin Fletcher / Mr Tumble was obviously on. It was either E45 or a dirty protest required!
Sarah Beeny.What's the name of the TV woman who lives in and renovated a manor house?
Lol at the E45 creme episode.
OMITN - imo seeing as you are 'upper middle class' I'm with C_G and would just go for a tiny telly. Really don't like those big flat screen monstrosities. All focus will be on your lovely woodburner anyway.
so we can watch [s]it[/s] porn from bed
FTFY paulo
mounted in the wall with cables hidden = middle class
descends from the ceiling remotely = ???
Had no choice for our 42" plasma as it is too wide for the alcoves 🙁 . So the AV10 is for sale on ebay 🙁 . We also have a 32" on a bracket, with one small cable hanging down to the furniture. this was because the previous owners tried to turn the wall into swiss cheese before moving, and I haven't fixed it yet.
Tv in bedroom. I can't think of anything worse. Its worse than mirrored wardrobes- although that has better entertainment benefits.
Tv on a wall makes it the focus of a room and tells visitors that that's your priority. What next a 50" tv with sky package? Cough chav 😉
Tv on wall in a hobby room? Nay probs tho IMO.
Tv in bedroom. I can't think of anything worse. Its worse than mirrored wardrobes- although that has better entertainment benefits.
Why?
Bedrooms are for slap n tickle and sleeping not TV. You 80's throwbacks 🙂
My advice, buy a 50". I bought one after worrying what it would be like going from 32", it's great to watch in my relatively small living room and my only regret is I didn't buy a 60"! I also cut out a 50" piece of cardboard to get the idea first.
Sarah Beeny... That's her.
Anyway they didn't want a TV on view all the time and had a [url= http://www.aglassofitsown.com/mirrors/would-you-use-a-tv-mirror/ ]TV mirror[/url] put in, from what I saw, it worked.
Ok, breath deeply, for a first time ever public agreement with hora on the forum. 😯 TVs in the bedroom are wrong, no explanation needed, they just are.
A TV on the wall in your living room is fine providing this means that there wont be one in your sitting room.
Tv on a wall makes it the focus of a room and tells visitors that that's your priority.
So what do you do in your living room then? Discuss Proust? Violin recitals? Hardcore sex on the rug?
The TV is one of the foci in our room because we like TV, films and Playstation games. And I'm proud of it 🙂
Bedrooms are for slap n tickle and sleeping not TV. You 80's throwbacks
🙂 Sometimes (most nights) I can't sleep - why would I not want to watch TV? If you go downstairs to watch TV you then wake yourself up to get up and go upstairs. Daft not to.
We have...
Lounge - 40" LCD on a stand (at some point to be replaced with 55" which will be wall mounted)
Bedroom - 32" widescreen CRT (which will be replaced with 40" from lounge and wall mounted). TV is great in the bedroom for watching together, for Mrs STR to watch when I have footy on in the lounge, or indeed for porn.
Games room - 26" LCD wall mounted. Used for daughter and friends playing on the Wii, or Mrs STR to watch on the treadmill.
Daughters bedroom - 22" LED/LCD wall mounted at the end of her cabin bed.
Kitchen - defunct CRT portable (on a wall bracket) that used an analogue aerial. This will be replaced with a 26" wall mounted LCD at some point and Sky piped through.
Our house isn't huge, so with limited space flat tellys wall mounted is ideal.
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I've mounted a couple (of lcd monitors) on those articulating arms which are great for swinging them out of the way.
Big screen mounted high looks crap IMO, keep it smaller and low and capable of being moved out of the way (I put the GF's one in such a way that it could be swung back into a press cupboard)
My BIL suggested to me that a flat panel TV on the wall is "pleberian"*, and that it ought to go onto a nice piece of furniture.
The actual word is Plebeian and to use such a word in text is rather fickle.
as its simply down to the individual where whom wants to place it.
Presume thats why the TV comes with a supplied stand and then
you have the option if you want to place it upon a wall
with a secondary optional bracket.
Don't think you find many poorer classes having such luxuries
if thats what you are saying has thats what Romans classed
the working class that had no future as Plebeians.
Your Bil sounds a right Knob
As a Sky engineer I get to see a multitude of TV installs day in,day out and unfortunately the Bulk of wall mounted TV's do tend to reside in the Council/Rented houses with various levels of success.
A wall hung TV done properly can look and function well,ie.TV in proportion to the room,hung at the correct height with ALL cables hidden in a conduit within the wall,DVD,surround sound,games consoles all kept in a nice enclosure either below or to the side..
However 95% fail to achieve this and just look plain $h!te in comparison.
For me if you can do it properly go for it otherwise just get a nice stand for it (Tip: not a Black glass one unless you really like dusting every 5secs)
Coffeeking I normally have a worn mtb mag by my bed, within 5mins I'm falling asleep. If I had a tv I would be up till 11 onwards as TV's stimulate me, I'll find something of interest.
There's an old rule I read somewhere- keep the bedroom purely for sleeping. It trains your mind to fall asleep quickly. Works for me! When I'm in there I feel relaxed.
I must admit I'm not a big fan of tv's in general or footie.
What's wrong with a proper antique Victorian telly cabinet.
sharkbait - Memberso we can watch it porn from bed
FTFY paulo
Cheers 🙂
My post reads abit like a pompous ****- its not meant to!
The actual word is Plebeian and to use such a word in text is rather fickle.
fick·le/?fik?l/
Adjective: Changing frequently, esp. as regards one's loyalties, interests, or affection.
How is that fickle?
Also, you might want to look up what [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic ]sic[/url] means.