Most of the headsets here are CK, never ever had a prob with a CK but all the others Cane, OnOne and Hope, need regular help and will get replaced by CKs when they die.
Only if you feel small in the trouser dept and need to wave your willy!
Nice kit but the extra price does not warrant the goods (Marketing Spin).
Waits for rush of Chris King clones to bat on about how many years they have had there headsets and that they have submerged them in the amazon and still running fine.
They need to justify spending twice the cash, other kit is fine like hope stuff and you wont be ripped off.
Hhhmmm, if you can get a good price on CK stuff then go for it, stopped using the headsets coz of the steerer issues, have a 20m front hub that has done 1000's of miles and is as smooth as the day i got it, with a DT 5.1 rim and DT spokes. The wheel had done 50 miles, was spotless and i paid only £120…so yep in that respect, it's worthwile, will probably try a BB at some point, but my hope one is going strong at nearly 2 years old.
never paid full price, and would struggle to do so, but they are nice and very reliable. one of mine is on its 2nd bike and is 5 years old – all its had is the occasional wipe and regrease, which its never really needed. did get some marking on some 130mm forks, but only after 3 years regular use, and you couldn't feel it with the finger, only see the black anodising (or whatever it is) having come off the steerer.
front hub is also working very nicely, now its bedded in it doens't come loose.
Never had the steerer problem here either and we have a few sets. Agree they are too much but ours are all SH so yet to pay more than a Hope price and seem to go on forever.
By repute the CK tandem special hub is the strongest hub out there. a very rare and expensive beast but apart from a rohloff the only hub not to fail under mtb tandeming
I've got 4 headsets. They're all brilliant. One is now 12 years old and still fine, although the crown race finally became too loose to use last month – I guess it's been on and off one too many pairs of forks!
The hubs are masses of cash, but again the bearing just last forever. Lesser hubs, even Hope, just don't last as long from my own use. That said, I currently have some Hugi 240s to which I've fitted ceramic bearings and they're still smooth after 4 seasons racing.
I'm still running a £7.00 FSA headset on my S Works that i put on when i built it in 2001. The bike has been used, abused, jet washed, ridden in all weathers etc and the only time the headset has been touched is when i've changed the forks (so basically its been greased twice in that time).
Its still smooth as the day it was put on so no, paying £90 odd for a spangly headset is pointless.
FSA Pigs here. Just changed the upper and lower bearings after nearly 5 years abuse and no maintenance, so at £19.99 for the headset and £8 for the bearings every 4 or 5 years why would I want anything else?
Personally, I've never had any sub-£40 headset last much more than a year. Not one. So I buy King headsets either from the USA when the Pound is strong or secondhand. One new one on MrsPPs bike cost £65 and mine were all around £45.
So far I've had about 3 years out of the used one on my inbred, so £15 a year so far seems like a bargain to me.
I have had a Pike steerer marked by one, but that's all it was, a mark. I couldn't even feel it with my fingernail, so I fail to see how that's a problem myself.
I wouldn't bother with tfeie hubs myself, because I believe you can get better hubs for less money. For that price I'd have Royce hubs myself. They make King hubs look like overpriced costume jewelry IMO. 🙂
I've had various headsets give me problems after riding in wet/muddy conditions. CK headset has been on 3 bikes now, and apart from needing the odd clean and re-grease has been faultless.
The hubs are really nice, 72 tooth engagement on the rear has very good pick-up, they're incredibly well-engineered using top quality materials and go on for years and years. Front hub is alot of cash for a front hub, but faultless there too. Had some very shiny Mavic wheels before which needed lots of bearings changing, so IMO the CK front is worth the money.
CK components are NOT 'fit and forget' – they're designed to be maintained (occasional cleaning and re-greasing basically), but will give a lifetime of service. Rear hubs can freeze in winter if not maintained properly – CK go for quality bearings which will tolerate a bit of water and minimum sealing rather than using cheap bearings/uber sealing (which causes drag). Consequently moisture in the ring drive may need to be removed every so often (it's a 10-minute job). I'm very happy with my CK stuff and would definitely buy again, although I probably won't need to!
P.S. Headset warranty is 10 years, hub warranty is 5 years.
Is it worth it? I've had my Chris King wheels since 2002. I've really only ever run one bike. So they've been used (and self serviced twice) by me for the past 6yrs.
My King headset has been in and out of circa 50frames? since 2003 all fitted by myself.
You get what you pay for. No idea on the BB's. I'll wait to see what the first run's longevity is like before taking the plunge but seeing as BB prices are relatively high anyway I dont see why not.
Chris King is the only thing I havent bought and sold repeatdly.
I used to ruin cheap headsets at a rate of 1 a year and have had my CK headset for 2 years now without any issues. I had a Hope one that did OK and sold on S/H so Hope is also a good bet IMO
Another year with the CK headset and I'll be quids in. its been on 3 frames not with no issues on any. Always fitted by me.
I also have a Ck rear hub and its mint. Paid £215 (new) for it last year (for a prezzie to me for reaching 40!) in a sale. The speed it engages is ace and a few degrees of crank movement have the wheel engaging. I stripped it a few months ago to give it a wipe and it looked mint inside after 10 months of riding through crap. One of the bearings had some dirt in it the other was fresh as a daisy.
IMO, CK is worth it if you can get it less than RRP, but even then it will still be dearer than the competition.
As someone has already pointed out, it isn't fit and forget stuff. It needs to be looked after every so often and if you're willing to do that, you won't regret the investment.
My stripped hub. Machining marks still visible after 9 months!