Intense Carbine

Hi,
Who’s getting all drooly about the forthcoming Intense Carbine? It’s looking like a seriously bling bike.

I was until I saw it had a press fit BB & no provision for a chainguide.

Fail.

I wonder where I could lease one of these ? 😛

Think I’d be waiting a year or two. Given Intense’s quality issues, I’m not sure I’d want to be a guinea pig for their first foray into carbon.

Plus the lack of ISCG tabs suggests to me that it’s one of those 150mm bikes that’s not meant to be ridden hard.

Looks lovely. Designed by Germans, made in far east so should be high quality.

Think I’d be waiting a year or two. Given Intense’s quality issues, I’m not sure I’d want to be a guinea pig for their first foray into carbon.

Plus the lack of ISCG tabs suggests to me that it’s one of those 150mm bikes that’s not meant to be ridden hard.

This.

I really want to want one, but it seems a bit compromised…

Think I’d be waiting a year or two. Given Intense’s quality issues, I’m not sure I’d want to be a guinea pig for their first foray into carbon.

Never ceases to amaze me how many people fork over their cash for an Intense.

How do you remove a press fit BB ? I guess there is a metal mounting for the BB… still wouldnt like to try that at home.

simonm – Member
How do you remove a press fit BB ? I guess there is a metal mounting for the BB… still wouldnt like to try that at home.

You tap it out with a headset remover (or whatever you’d use to remove a headset)

They’re not as difficult or unreliable as some would have you believe.

Fortunateson09 – Member

This.

I really want to want one, but it seems a bit compromised…

Yeah. It is stunning, to be fair – if I was hanging a bike on my wall, that’s probably be it.

So how much to lease one then Paul?

I should get my paws on one to test in the next couple of weeks. I’m really looking forward to it. On paper it seems really good.

If it rides as good as it should I’ll probably get a frameset and build it up off my current Intense 5.5. build. The frames are not made in the Intense factory but from a Taiwanese carbon specialist so they should not have any QC issues. Not that I’ve had any problems in 4 years of being an intense owner.

I don’t think this bike should have chain guide tabs. A shadow plus derailler and it can be built to do anything, without chain drag or extra weight.

Hi,
I’ve just spoken to Chipps who was quite rightly a little disgruntled at the link I had put into this thread to our facebook page. Lesson learnt.

He said it was OK to post the Intense Link again – here it is:
http://www.intensecycles.com/carbine/gallery/

He also said that it was OK to answer MussEd’s question about leasing prices.

We lease frame only and custom builds. Hopefully, Extra will be bringing in some build kits soon as well.

To give you an idea of prices:
The frame retails for £2099
Frame only on a 2 yr lease – 3 x £174.90 then 24 x £43.10.
Total lease = £1,559.10

On a 2 year lease, a custom build at around £4600 would be:
3 x £382.20 and then 24 x £94.20
Total lease = £3,406.40

Remember, 4 flexible options at the end:
Buy it, extend lease for another 12 months, hand it back, or hand it back and get a new bike on a new lease.

Also, running costs lower ‘cos anything that wears out can be replaced at trade.

Lots of other beneficial bits and peices to consider but I can’t detail them here as that would be too much like plugging:)

It’s another option to consider.

Regards

Paul

What a waste of money

Hi Toons, please feel free to take a little time to visit the website and you’ll see that it is quite the opposite.

It is difficult to draw objective conclusions from a set of numbers written down on a forum. The website explains the context and the basis of the value that leasing represents.

It’s also been explained further here: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/mountain-bike-leasing

Please read through the entire thread and you’ll see what I mean.

Regards

Paul

paulmtbleasing – I think you’re going to have to accept that, as with cars, there are some people who see value in leasing and some who don’t.

trying to ‘win over’ everyone who posts doubting the value of what you offer is going to;

a) do nothing to change their minds

and

b) put other poeple off you as it just looks like you;re spamming the forum all the time.

My advice woudl be to post within the rules of the forum and just accept you won’t please everyone.

Isn’t the thread about the Carbine rather than the pros and cons of leasing? ❓

I like the idea but it’s too expensive.
Buy on credit with typical “reality” discount of 10%
=£1889
24 months at 0% = 78.42/month
2 years later residual value of 2nd hand frame = £800odd
Cost of 2 years riding = £1089.00
£479 cheaper than leasing
Parts are often available from CRC etc for less than (or close to) retail cost so that benefit is minimal.

Thank you wwaswas and ir12daveor.

You are quite correct.

I think the Carbine is an awesome looking bike both in terms of its visuals and its technical features.

I like the lube ports around the bearings and I like the VPP aspect of the suspension.

The bottom bracket height looks like it’ll be well suited to the terrain it was designed for as well. What do you think?

I think there’s every chance of it being another classic from Intense.

Isn’t the thread about the Carbine rather than the pros and cons of leasing?

No, it was about the OP getting free advertising.

another classic intense? ha what snappy, bent and badly put together.. probably yep!

(owner of a very expensive paper weight).

I’ve heard of many other brands breaking more than Intenses. I currently own two and they’ve taken a fair degree of abuse over the last 4 years and are still running smoothly (is that fate I just tempted?). All bikes have a breaking point and you can be lucky or unlucky with anything.

I love both my Intenses and will more than likely be getting a Carbine if I feel it lives up to what I think it should be when I get to ride one.

Maybe they are not for everyone, but then I personally wouldn’t touch certain other brands.

I’ve read the OP’s leasing thread which is a bit of a plug (but if I remember correctly was started by someone else), his original post on this thread was about the Carbine. Nothing mentioned (other than his username) about the leasing thing. He’s a mountain biker, isn’t he entitled to discuss his taste in bikes as much as anyone else here? Other people on here are open about business they run too, should they also be chastised for starting threads?

Think I’ll go back to lurking. (Hmm, I wonder what tyres I need for that!?)

ir12daveor – Member
I’ve heard of many other brands breaking more than Intenses. I currently own two and they’ve taken a fair degree of abuse over the last 4 years and are still running smoothly (is that fate I just tempted?). All bikes have a breaking point and you can be lucky or unlucky with anything

Not just breaking – misaligned frames, frames welded crooked, incorrect tolerances, loads of issues.

Intense themselves (well, their owner) admitted as much on MTBR – that their quality control wasn’t what it should have been. They were employing a new QC guy to fix it.