when i ride for any length of time i am in agony with sore wrists.
this starts 1hr into a ride, and does not go away till i take pain killers.
and then they both hurt afterwards.
tried flatbars, risers, marys, hbars, drops and ergon grips.
help me...what can i do.
Bars higher, with saddle lower so that less of your body weight is supported by your arms.
Raise your bars using higher rise stem to take the weight off your wrists?
To behonest it sounds like you have tried pretty much everything. I suffered really sore palms on LeJog for a few days that was sorted with Ibuprofen gel rub and a different pair of gel gloves, the Spesh ones just didnt suit.
Have you taken a week or so off riding to let the 'injury' heel?
Maybe worth trying.
on all my bikes the bars are level with the saddle.
this is not caused by too much weight on my wrists/hands.
Could you try a powerball to strengthen your wrists?
Hmmm, I smell a wind-up but anyway....
...I've found all the following can help
make sure your not gripping too hard
check your hands are pointing down relative to your forearm
when riding 'easy' try putting your thumbs on top of the bars (ie next to your fingers)
try a wrist support
oh yeah and TonTFU 
too much weight on your hands. Raise the bars a couple of inches.
Try a new bike?
ton,
Could it be something to do with the position of the shifters/brakes and the rotation of your wrists in relation to them?
All the best.
Ton, it's not really about the bar/saddle level thing.
It's about weight distribution.
If I were you, I would start my bike setup again, and this time aim to get your bum further back. Pain in your hands, wrists and shoulders is usually a sign that you are taking too much weight on your hands; usually because you are sitting too far forwards.
You should be able to ride along for a considerable distance using two fingers to support your weight on the bars; using core strength to maintain your position, not using your hands to hold yourself up.
Get your bum further back, get used to stretching out a bit more, and use your hands to steer with, not to support your body weight.
Try and roll your bars forward a little?
i measure bars to seat tip, seat to saddle, they are all the same.
i suffer no pain any where else.
all my bikes seat and bars are in this type of set up.
That saddle still looks higher than the bars.
Have you thought about a recumbent?
If you're sure the seat/bars heights are OK might be worth giving twist shift a try - some wrist pain can originate from thumb flexion under load.
Is it just on mtb or the road bike as well ??
doesn't help much but i had sometin simmilar after a crash followed by an evenin's boulderin, somethin in there went pop an i ended up at the physio fr a bit.... best bet is all of the above fettle controls an get stronger wrists an forearms, an the ladys love strong forearms....
Bar ends? Or have you tried those and called them something else? I'm not up on terminology. I'm assuming you're talking about road bikes? But there again you're prob not. In that case, no idea what would help, sorry.
If you can put up with poorer pedalling efficiency/sore knees for a ride, try lower you saddle an inch or so and move it backwards a cm or two.
From what I'd imagine from your position on the bike above, I'd still imagine a large portion of your not insubstantial upper body weight going through your wrists.
Raise the bars a couple of inches - it will do the trick.
All you bikes have the same setup. Youget pain on all your bikes. Alter the setup is the answer.
All your bikes have in-line seatposts; try a layback post and a shorter stem on one bike and see if it helps.
cheers all.
will try all the ideas and see what happens. 
Butterfly bars would allow you to really vary your position.
Ergon grips?
...and, ton, if you put your seat back by 1-2 cm or so, drop your saddle by the same amount.
Lots of mountain bikers I see tend to ride with 'high' saddles, on tip toes at full extension. This not only tends to push your weight forwards, but makes you a bit more unstable on the bike, so you use your hands and arms for stability.
Sit down a bit, get planted on the bike and see how it helps.
brake levers
I got a bike fitting by an expert on saturday, a good few hours where we sat me on my xc bike on a turbo trainer with a mirror in front and a mirror behind.
Went about doing lots of little tweaks, back on the bike to test, back off again and so on. I could really tell the difference with a couple of degrees angle on the saddle in my wrists (broke last may)
Rather than keep trying yourself, if your not sure I'd take the plunge and get someone who has a lot of experience help you.
Best £60 I've spent on the bike.
brake levers
Yeah - you're pulling them so hard your wrists hurt - look what you did
Mind you there is a lot of you to stop
It's bleedin obvious what he needs to do.
Jeesus! Can't you lot see it?
Ton, you need to come out to France to visit me. Help me drink some beer, and we'll get a full analysis.
SB
Tony - the brake levers don't look at the same angle on all the bikes. The Chumba looks pretty extreme, the On-One pretty relaxed. Does it come on sooner or worse on either of those bikes? If not it's probably not lever position - at least that might rule something out.
You want that Code to see if its ridiculously over powered action helps? I'll bring it to the forum ride on 28th - try it and see.
Judging by the spacers - you have some leeway for raising your bars - try this with one bike, with another try raising the bars and lowering the saddle - compare these two with one bike left as it is..... worth a try. Also - I found that gel padded gloves made my wrists hurt - I now use unpadded gloves with large diameter foam grips (with an Hbar) also my bars are higher than my saddle - works for me.
change your saddle angle prehaps, if it is tilting slightly foward it will force you to apply pressure to the bars to keep you from sliding off.
Iain
Try some chubbier grips too - I'm assuming you're hands are on the larger side (or if like me, you're used to grasping something with considerably greater girth..........)
boxelder - Member
Try some chubbier grips too - I'm assuming you're hands are on the larger side (or if like me, you're used to grasping something with considerably greater girth..........)
boxelder, to right............
Ergon grips as above and some physio to strengthen wrists.
I really suffered yrs ago when I started playing squash. Being very strong right sided this was a puzzle but I had sprained my wrist many times as a youngster, falling off bike and hay stacks, so it is weak in a certain movement/plane. Wore a support for yrs till it sorted itself, actually sore atm, tough night @ work.
Off to play @ Ae with a couple of yoofs from Leeds. See ya later
Go to cyclefit or similar.
It's not cheap, (though cheaper than most new frames) but it'll sort your ergonomics out for you. You can spend a lot of time playing around with contact points- you might get it right, you might not, but they almost certainly will.
You've been talking about spending a lot of time in the saddle this year- 'almost right' will be fine for most riding, but getting your position on the bike sorted will make things a lot easier and more comfortable in the long run.
If you run, or ski then you'll get an assessment to ensure you're using the right equipment, orthotics etc- we really should be doing the same for cycling.
ramble over.
I think your bar are too low regarding the saddle.
Try rising the bar a few cms. It's mountain bike no road bike, you don't need to have your ass right up the sky. Plus I second the brakes comment, they are not the same... I second SB comment, you should come and visit me to france, so I can teach you how to set up your bike. And learn to ride
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