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Happy Birthday Mr Zimmerman
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I could be here all night. There has been some good stuff on telly and radio 4 about this.
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People who haven't heard of Creative shouldn't be allowed to post recordings of vinyl on Youtube.
I never did like Bob Dylan and no doubt never will. Some covers made the songs more paletable but the originals, ugh!
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He may be 70, but he ain't .....
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The early stuff for me.
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anti vinyl and anti dylan
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Heard the interview with the journalist on the plane flight from the '60's on R4 yesterday - first admission of the $25 a day New York smack habit.
Posting from phone, can someone please stick Tangled Up In Blue on here? One of the very, very few perfect pieces of music I've ever heard.
Happy birthday Bob.
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Serge Gainsbourg or Garry Glitter more your 'vibe' Edukator?
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Nope, Gainsbourg sounded like a packet of cigarette too. Brassens if you want Dylan's generation, or Goldman and Cabrel from mine.
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I never did like Bob Dylan and no doubt never will. Some covers made the songs more paletable but the originals, ugh!
Your loss mate
He's a funny character isn't he? Doesn't come across in interviews like his music cones across. A good example of a channel for whatever force he's connected to.
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Saw him at the Apollo in Manchester about ten years ago now.
Was expecting a grumpy old sod a la live Van The Man - we actually got three hours of smiley primetime Bobness.
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Good songwriter, but coon't flippin sing. Why did he ever think he could? Terrible voice. His stuff is only ever ok when sung by other people.
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His voice is intentional, a bit marmite of course.
Top of the music-is-my-life tree, Neil Young and Frank Zappa there too.
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Bob's got a hoose up near Nethy Bridge. I asked one of his aristocratic neighbours if she'd met him. She ruefully replied, 'Peter, I don't move in those circles'
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His voice is intentional
What, you mean he meant to sound shit?
Seriously, bloke could never sing. Should never have bothered. The worst renditions of Bob Dylan songs I've ever heard have bin sung by Bob Dylan. I've heard drunken tone deaf karaoke pub singers sound better.
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With Edukator and Elfinsafety here. It can't be denied that he is a fantastic song writer, and he is! But he really can't sing for shit.
They played "I Want You" on the radio tonight. Catchy little tune but killed by it's own parent. As Clint said, "A man's gotta know his limits."
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write songs though he can,
and thats a biggy.could listen to pop idol twaddle,they can sing but cant write sh!t!
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Though i don't suppose we'll meet.....
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Wonderful song with great delivery
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I agree that he doesn't have the greatest voice, but he sounds noticeably worse on these youtube clips than he does on an album.
I don't know if that's youtube making him sound worse, or sound techies making him sound better on a CD though?
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Just a theory but if Bob Dylan could sing, surely less people would have felt the need to do cover versions? IMHO, most Dylan covers (not all tho!) are way more listenable than his originals. The music world is a far better place with so many of his finely crafted works sung by those with real singing talent. Most recent example is Adele's cover of Make you feel my love.
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Seriously, bloke could never sing
I'm surprised at you Elfin. A voice, like any art should be about originality first, not how technically correct it is.
It's like saying Picasso can't paint cos his paintings don't look like the thing he's painting.
So, you prefer
Michael Ball over Bob Dylan
Michael Buble over John Lydon
Leona Lewis over Bjork
etc etc and so on and so on
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Or do you prefer Keane?
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Just a theory but if Bob Dylan could sing, surely less people would have felt the need to do cover versions?
firstly it is a hypothessis not a theoryFIWIW The top 5 is Beatles, Dylan, Elvis, Duke Ellingon, Roling Stones
I assume you dont want to argue none of those could sing.
Top 20 also has stevie wonder, bowie, marvin gaye and Frank Sinatra
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Junkyard - Top 5 of what? Songs covered by other people?
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Many great singer / songwriters have their work covered by others but the cover is rarely as good as the original. I would suggest Dylan is unusual in that as a great writer but poor singer, covers often sound better than his originals.
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I think if you've heard a significant amount of dylan you'll realise that he can sing, and that a his vocal delivery is pretty deliberate.
He's not Mariah Carey
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It's like saying Picasso can't paint cos his paintings don't look like the thing he's painting.
Nothing like that.
More like, the rich people what commissioned great paintings like the Sistine Chapel or whatever, not bothering with yer Michaelangelo and doing it themselves instead.
So ner.
Having a voice with 'character' is not the same as having a terrible singing voice. Dylan has the latter.
If you were in a pub and someone was wailing over the Karaoke like that, you tell them to get off. Perhaps even glass them if they continued. And rightly so. It's bloody awful.
Dylan sounds like a constipated seal. What can't sing.
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Bob's got a hoose up near Nethy Bridge. I asked one of his aristocratic neighbours if she'd met him. She ruefully replied, 'Peter, I don't move in those circles'
I thought he owned Inchrory Lodge?
Bob is at the top of the cultural tree as far as I'm concerned, an icon for icons.
Criticising his vocals is like criticising an impressionist painter for being unclear. His vocal style draws attention to the words. And he knows exactly where to put vocal emphasis, better than anyone I can think off.
*Edit - didn't realise the painter analogy had already been made. In any case, the people who misunderstand the vocals just don't understand full stop. I blame a poor education system, or the classic/romantic split. Anyhow, have another analogy. It's like saying Lanark was rubbish because it jumped all over the place. Or Tolkien was rubbish because he got caught up in geekish over-analysis of imagined cultures.
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