Lyons - could you update me on where the pedals are and if they have been posted?
flat pedals and shoes
(Mr MC posting)
I'm a recent convert to flatties so have been thru similar conundrum.
I currently use DMR v12s on one bike, and Wellgo MG1 Ti's on the other. DMR (and a bunch of others including Deity I believe) are made by Wellgo and share mechanical features (such as 12mm bush inboard, sealed bearing outboard).
Wellgo MG1s are light and stonking value for money (30 quid ish) and even with the Ti axles come in at 55ish quid, less than half the price another poster paid for DMR V12 Mag Ti which is essentially the same pedal.
I havent noticed any difference in performance between the V12s and the MG1s- MC had some V12s that she didnt use so I blagged them and then bought the wellgos. If I as doing it again I'd prob go for the basic MG1 as its cheaper and much lighter than the V12, and the weight loss of the Ti axle is not really worth the cost.
One negative Ive heard is that the MG1 (and poss other soft magnesium pedals) can have pins torn from them in rock strikes, but I havent experienced this yet.
I wear knackered old Vans when weather is grim, 5.10 impact lows when its dry. Havent been blown away by the supposed extra grip of 5.10s and possibly prefer the more flexible sole of Vans where I can feel the pedal. Only ridden the 5.10s a couple of times but am currently underwhelmed and wondering what I'm missing.
As others have said Vans (and etnies etc) can be had for 20 quid from the likes of TK Maxx, but I wear Vans as casual shoes anyway so they become my biking shoes when theyre past their best.
ended up writing a bit of an essay, so in summary Wellgo MG1 and Vans.
five tens for sure, i have some straitline pedals and would just rate them as ok, much better and a tiny bit cheaper are 24Bicycles Butterfly II pedals, bigger platform, thinner profile and grippier pins.
FiveTen do make some much nicer shoes than the fugly Impacts;
5-10 basics and wellgo mags for me. v v grippy. too grippy for some.
the basics are decent - stiff enough and reinforced toe. sealskins socks when the weather's bad.
For shoes, I'm not too impressed with my 5 10s, they just weren't very well made. The inner upper's worn badly, the inner sole was just cardboard and has broken up after getting wet once too often, and the stealth rubber layer is coming away from the main sole. My comparison here is a pair of ancient Vans Bricks, which I wore as everyday shoes til they were knackered, then started riding in- they've done more riding than the 5 10s even after that, and they're still holding together. As far as I can tell it's mainly the wetness that does it.
AM40s seem better so far, they certainly don't waterlog like my 5 10s do and they have very nearly as much grip. Not as nice to walk in though, they're a bit clumpy, and the graphics are awful... But they just seem to be better put together and that bit more practical.
"TractorFrog - Member
DMR v12 Mags with Ti Axle upgrade. There is no lighter flat pedal on the market! (£125+ once you finished) Paired with 5.10's and your laughing."
Total rubbish TBH, they're not that light at all, 354g, which is barely lighter than a cromo axled MG1. The MG1 with titanium axles comes in at around 300g and they cost half as much and come out of the same factory. And the MG1s aren't even spectacularily light themselves, there are lighter.
Basically, what it comes down to is this... The MG1s are lighter, functionally identical (slightly gripper IMO thanks to the extra pin and slightly wider front, but it's a minor difference), cheaper, just as well made and servicable... With V12s you're just paying for the name.
I'm curently using a pair of Dark Cycles Arachnids:
And a pair of 510 impacts - unbelievably grippy and generally excellent. A warning to anyone who fancies a pair of these pedals though, they are such spikey bastards that unless you have thick stiff soles your feet will end up really hurting, for example the 510 freeriders I have are too thin and my feet end up hurting.
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