Easy Jet and MTBs - Weight Allowance Question

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Easy Jet and MTBs - Weight Allowance Question

39 posts & 27 voices | Started 8 months ago by Orangejohn | Latest reply from mk1fan

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Orangejohn - Member

On Sat I shall be flying out of Manchester to Morocco.
I have paid up for a bike (12 kilos) plus have a personal allowance of only 20 kilos.

The bike weighs probably nearly 15 kilos. I need spares. a tyre, sleeping bag and clothes. Sounds to me like I may be over the weight allowance (just thinking about packing).

Easy Jet say on-line prior purchase of excess weight at £10 per kilo is discounted (but not by how much).

Any help would be appreciated, do I risk it and pay at the airport if they take issue. Are they likely to take issue at the airport if over and would I be better off pre buying more weight?

Regards
John

Posted 8 months ago #
TandemJeremy - Member

you need to check the small print.

If you have paid for a bike and one piece of hold luggage you have up to 50 kg in two bags - the luggage must be under 20 kgs and the bike in its bag under 32 kgs

Posted 8 months ago #
Gary_C - Member

This crops up every year. You are allowed 20kilos hold baggage, plus up to 32kilos for the bike, plus hand luggage with no weight restriction as long as it complies with the dimensions.

EDIT: As TJ said, the overal limit is 50kilos if you want to avoid excess charges.

EDIT 2: From the Carriers Regulations on EasyJet website:

Section 10, Baggage: ( My bold )

(1) Carriage of bicycles:

•The bicycle must be packaged in a bicycle box or bag
•Only one bicycle per bicycle box or bag will be permitted
•No other items can be carried in the bicycle box (i.e. clothing)
•The handlebars must be flush with the frame
•The pedals must be flush against the frame or removed

Passengers travelling with bicycles are recommended to check-in 2 hours prior to departure. Bicycles are subject to the sports equipment fee and exempt from any excess baggage charges relating to the weight of the bicycle.

Posted 8 months ago #
don simon - Member

You can go over the stated weight limit as long as it's just body fat.

Posted 8 months ago #
KT1973 - Member

Proceed with care. When I moved to Spain I declaired mine as 15 Kg and declared the extra case. They made me pay £200 to get on the plane saying it was overweight.
The Mrs kicked up hell and I've been refunded now but be warned.
Oh, and they tore open my brand new CRC bike bag too

Posted 8 months ago #
Gary_C - Member

I've done 14 flights since 2005 on easyJet with bike, hold bag & hand luggage, & never been stung for any excess baggage charges.

The bike bag usually weighs 30-32kilos, hold bag 15kilos or so.

Posted 8 months ago #
portlyone - Member

It may be different going to Geneva but we got away with 37 kg bike boxes.

Posted 8 months ago #
Orangejohn - Member

Thanks All and particularly Gary C.

Four years ago out of Liverpool with EJ to Geneva they took £70 quid off me.
I didn't have the 'small print' with me but this time I will, bicycles are exempt.

Thanks Again

Posted 8 months ago #
mikewsmith - Member

yep bikes are 32Kg if you exceed it you may not be able to fly as H&S say that is the max they can lift (don't look out the window when they load the plane though)

Posted 8 months ago #
footflaps - Member

They've never weigh my bike boxes at Gatwick and just ask what they weigh, so I normally say 30kg - which is about right...

Posted 8 months ago #
Edric 64 - Member

20kgs is a fair bit for clothing what weight do you get for a cabin bag?.12 kgs sounds to little for a packed bike though

Posted 8 months ago #
keith2005motorcross - Member

been with easy jet to geneva twice this year 20kg hold baggage and 32kg bike was ok until my return flight from geneva where the swiss miss demanded excess baggage because total was 52 kg and she thought max was 40kg. she tried to charge but a big argument and show of contract resolved it in my favour.

in short make sure you read the conditions and take them with you as proof otherwise you wwill be on the back foot in an argument....

Posted 8 months ago #
coolhandluke - Member

Bike bag can't be over 32kg's. Luggage not over 20kg's. You have a total weight allowance of 50KG's.

you need the carrier terms and the usual terms off their web site to deduce this.

We flew from Manchester and they were fully aware of these limits / targets.

Posted 8 months ago #
doug_basqueMTB.com - Member

This is it ^^, <32kg but you can only have the bike in the bike bag. I've only once had a problem when they took exception to my armour / spare tyres etc being used to pad the bike out. I had the check in lady screaming at me because I refused to unpack it unless they wrote me a letter saying they asked me to remove padding from my bag and accepted responsibilty for any damage. My other bags had already been checked in and this was at OS baggage. She eventually relented and left but not before she called me a f**king d*ck. In front of my parents and the OS baggage guy! The 4 of us laughed for about a week

Posted 8 months ago #
hora - Member

I put all my bike kit in the bikebag around the bike itself and carried onboard my helmet.

Enjoy yourself and could we have pics posted on your return?

How much is it costing etc?

Posted 8 months ago #
Dango - Member

took 37kg through Geneva also, no charges

Posted 8 months ago #
jockthestore - Member

Small print allows for a combined weight of bike bag & normal luggage of 32kg, therefore if your case is 20 your bike is only really allowed to be 12, though I've flown many times with bikes and they don't bother weighing the bikes (mainly because it's to big to get under the checkin desk).

Posted 8 months ago #
PeterPoddy - Member

armour / spare tyres etc being used to pad the bike out

Nice tip there Doug, thanks!

Posted 8 months ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

jockthestore - Member

Small print allows for a combined weight of bike bag & normal luggage of 32kg, therefore if your case is 20 your bike is only really allowed to be 12, though I've flown many times with bikes and they don't bother weighing the bikes (mainly because it's to big to get under the checkin desk).

no, read the small print, it says 20kg for your luggage (paid seperatly) and 32kg for a bike in a bag.

Posted 8 months ago #
namastebuzz - Member

THey frequently (but not always)don't weigh the bike bag at the check in desk. It gets weighed at the outsize baggage bit so isn't checked by anyone who has any say on how heavy it should be.

32kg is the limit for bike bags so, in theory, you can stuff loads of other gear in as well. I've heard of EasyJet checking for that but RyanAir never have.

Flew to Spain once and my bike bag was 47kg (with a car rack and loads of tools etc) but no-one said anything - although there were several "HEAVY" stickers on it.

Posted 8 months ago #
mk1fan - Member

TandemJeremy - Member

you need to check the small print.

If you have paid for a bike and one piece of hold luggage you have up to 50 kg in two bags -

Really, not according to their website - http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Planning/baggage.html

Although having poked about I did find this http://www.easyjet.com/EN/book/regulations.html#baggage Item 10 Sports Equipment. I read it to be that you have a max of 50kgs and they charge excess on anything over 32kgs?

Posted 8 months ago #
lynchmob - Member

just comeback from austria with easy jet. i payed the £18 for sports bike. your allowed as has been said in this thread 32kg bike bag. you have to book another bag if you want to pack another bag of clothes or you can take it on the plane if it is up to 20kg. i only had shorts & undies blah blah. i said to the guy on the check in desk i didnt want to take anything on the plane. he helped me ram it in to my bike bag. they were helpful so dont worry. i also packed my bike helmets knee pads tools etc in the bike bag, have a nice trip

Posted 8 months ago #
footflaps - Member

I put all my bike kit in the bike box, food, spares, helmet, big chain and padlock, armour, etc - never had a problem with it except being made to remove the CO2 canisters in Italy - even though I've flown with them all over the place before....

Posted 8 months ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

I read it to be that you have a max of 50kgs and they charge excess on anything over 32kgs?

No, somewhere in there it does say bikes are excluded from the excess baggage, but have to be under 32kg for H&S.

Posted 8 months ago #
Milkie - Member

I read it to be that you have a max of 50kgs

Think you'll find that's hold luggage + bike.

Going by EasyJet for the first time from Bristle on Saturday, hopefully it will be smooth!

Posted 8 months ago #
lynchmob - Member

dont forget to print off your boarding pass of the internet & check they have listed your bike. if they havent print of your receipt email that comfirms bike bag. as long as you take a copy of your email comfirmation you will be fine

Posted 8 months ago #
cabbage84 - Member

I always back all my riding gear in bike bag including shoes, shorts,tops and underwear for the week to pad it out. Then pack essentials in my small case this way saves paying the extra for hold luggage. Never had my bag checked or any problems checking it in.

Posted 8 months ago #
winterfold - Member

Can someone who is certain you get 52kg for bike plus bag find a link where it says so?

I was definitely of that opinion til this year when they changed the wording on the site and it is as mk1fan linked to - which looks pretty clear to me.

Bike on it's own 32kg

Bike plus bag still only 32kg - makes no sense at all but the website is pretty clear it is that stupid

Just get the biggest bag that fits in carrion and take your clothes in that.

Posted 8 months ago #
TandemJeremy - Member

At the bottom of the link from above
http://www.easyjet.com/EN/book/regulations.html#baggage

* The bicycle must be packaged in a bicycle box or bag
* Only one bicycle per bicycle box or bag will be permitted
* No other items can be carried in the bicycle box (i.e. clothing)
* The handlebars must be flush with the frame
* The pedals must be flush against the frame or removed

Passengers travelling with bicycles are recommended to check-in 2 hours prior to departure. Bicycles are subject to the sports equipment fee and exempt from any excess baggage charges relating to the weight of the bicycle.

and from further up

Sporting equipment
Each passenger is allowed a maximum hold baggage weight of 50 Kgs including any sports equipment, subject to available space. The maximum weight for any single piece of baggage is 32 kgs.

Posted 8 months ago #
winterfold - Member

Yes thanks I'd just found it - well hidden isn't it?

The last paragraph you linked to shows what your permitted to take on, but not what you have paid for - If you were travelling with a windsurfer and it all weighed 50kg then you would pay 18kg excess.

Posted 8 months ago #
mk1fan - Member

But then the same section goes on to say

Payment of the additional fee increases your checked-in hold baggage allowance (including additional item) to a maximum weight of 32kgs.
Where your total checked-in hold baggage weighs more than 32Kgs, normal excess baggage charges as set out above shall apply in addition to the above fee.

Its all confusing and I think the 50kg limit is right but Easyjet appears to be trying to add in another layer of charging.

Posted 8 months ago #
TandemJeremy - Member

Mk 1 fan - bicycles are exempt from excess baggage - read my post above.

Posted 8 months ago #
Radioman - Member

I recently was charged by easy jet for being 1kg overweight!! It depends who you get on the desk on the day.

Posted 8 months ago #
mk1fan - Member

TJ, I did.

Did you read my post? The quote follows on from the bit you posted.

I think Winterfold and Radioman are probably right. 50kgs is what you're permitted, not what you've paid for and the excess charge comes down to the face on the check-in desk.

Clearly they have a corporate strategy for revenue from excess charging as the first link I posted has completely different information and is the easiest to find. http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Planning/baggage.html

On the way back from Morzine our combined hold bags (bike and one suitcase) were 47kgs but the check-in girl didn't charge us (according to the table in my first link we were 3kgs over).

Posted 8 months ago #
uplink - Member

OK

We had an Easyjet director come down from his office at Luton airport and explain it to us and his check-in operative [she was uncertain]

If you book a bag in the hold and a bike you are allowed ............

A bag up to 20kg and a bike up to 30kg, if the bike weighs 32kg, that reduces your hold bag allowance to 18kg [the previously mentioned 50kg limit]
if your bike is over 32kg, they won't take it
If your bag is over 20kg [or 18kg etc.] you will have to pay excess baggage charges
They also see putting clothing etc. in the bike bag/box as an attempt to avoid the excess charges on your hold bag and will insist it is removed from the bike bag and weighed in with your hold bag

That is the rules according to the EJ director
Now - like in all walks of life - everyone doesn't always stick rigidly to the rules and you may get away with all sorts of stuff most of the time or some of the time, or never

Posted 8 months ago #

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