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  • do you think iran will be invaded ?
  • loum
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    ernie hit the nail on the head with his first post.
    The propaganda war has begun, and worked. Even STW now find it acceptable to openly discuss the invasion of Iran and when it will happen.

    [Tin hat time]
    This forum, and others such as mumsnet, are monitored* for threads such as these.
    As soon as the data shows that enough mountain bikers and yummy mummies are accepting of the invasion of another Middle Eastern Country, then Bang, in they go.
    You can’t even ignore the thread, there is also a counter for “What tyres for…?” threads which, when it reaches a total of 3 times asked after this thread originated , shows enough people to be indifferent to this discusion to be deemed as “invasion acceptable to the general public”.
    [/Tin hat time]

    *no scientific proof

    chewkw
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    loum – Member

    ernie hit the nail on the head with his first post.
    The propaganda war has begun, and worked. Even STW now find it acceptable to openly discuss the invasion of Iran and when it will happen.

    No, I don’t need propaganda … there is no reason to start a war but there is every reason to nuke maggots to kingdom come. We, the parasites, deserve all that nuke can give us.

    redfordrider
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    OP – Invasion by conventional land forces? No. The terrain is suited to gravity type DH/AM type adventures. Definately not and XC course like Iraq in 1991 or 2003. More likely there will be rerun of the 1981 Operation Opera by the Israelis. Of course this will need to be supported by the US, Saudi Arabia and Iraq to ensure refuelling, a clear airspace and recovery should it all go the wrong. This is assuming that the Iranians have not aquired some effective anti-aircraft missiles like the S300 from Viktor Bout’s mates. There could be some special forces action on the ground. However, the US have not forgotten the shame of Operation Eagle Claw in 1980 – very embarrassing. The Iranians may use their rather effective naval forces to disrupt shipping through the 54 km wide Strait of Hormuz. The problem with this is that they need to sell their own oil to the far east via the same shipping route. With some luck the Iranians will see sense and negotiate a transparent, but robust inspection regime to verify their peaceful intentions. At least, let’s hope so…otherwise Israel may have to settle it with a few well aimed Jericho IIs…

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    themightymowgli
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    I thought North Korea was a bigger target in the eyes of
    the US

    redfordrider
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    The US has about 27 000 military types in South Korea and 35 000 in Japan to deal with any attack from the North Korea. The US and its allies in the region have little to fear from a conventional force. North Korea is happy with the status quo and will do nothing to risk losing it. There is little chance of the South provoking an attack without the backing of the US. I also have my own doubts about the viability of North Korea’s nuclear weapons.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    themightymowgli – Member

    I thought North Korea was a bigger target in the eyes of
    the US

    The priority for North Korean is to worship dear leader III … nothing else comes first.

    I-ran’s (as in I run) leaderships on the other hand are either too stupid or delusional to begin thinking that the reincarnation of Darius III or the creation of new Babylon is in their grasps. I guess without realising they are actually slowly enlisting themselves into the category of endanger species …

    FuzzyWuzzy
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    There’s no chance conventional troops will go into Iran (unless Iran does something really stupid…). Ofc special forces will already be there and targets already selected for air strikes. I think the US will use any excuse to launch an attack, hence the provocative show of force going on at the moment and trying to back them into a corner with sanctions. I’d give it at most 6 months before something kicks off, the interesting and unknown element is what will Iran’s response be.

    MrWoppit
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    now find it acceptable to openly discuss the invasion of Iran

    #

    What a strange thing to say. Is freedom of speech now curtailed? Bit like it is in Iran?

    grum
    Free Member

    It’s disgraceful that we are apparently fine with our buddies murdering iranian scientists and blowing up facilities etc. Where is the UN mandate for that? It’s terrorism, plain and simple.

    And I hope Iran do get nukes then hopefully we can avoid another war.

    aP
    Free Member

    Then again going to war is a tried and tested method of getting out of a recession…

    hora
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    Is there anyone in the world that America hasn’t fought?

    Seriously. I know they have to in this instance but its amazing to see over history how many countries has both threatened and fought. Can we list them?

    UK (and its colonies by default)
    Itself 😆
    Germany
    Italy
    Japan
    Vietnam
    China/Korea (Korean war)
    Egypt (Suez)
    Cuba (Bay of Pigs)
    Iraq
    Afghanistan (it was run by the Talebanies)

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Egypt (Suez) ?

    i’ll think you’ll find france & the UK were told in no uncertain terms to cease and desist by the US

    MrWoppit
    Free Member

    And I hope Iran do get nukes then hopefully we can avoid another war.

    😯

    😆 😆 😆

    hora
    Free Member

    Ok, I’ll counter you with secret American warplane involvement in the 6 day war with Egypt…

    rossi46
    Free Member

    I think you’ll find the US has world domination on its agenda- even everyday things like telly programmes are aimed at ramming itself down out throats.
    They are this centuries version of the Roman empire.

    Edit: im quite pleased that they invented the mountain bike though!

    loum
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    Mr Woppit – Member
    now find it acceptable to openly discuss the invasion of Iran
    #
    What a strange thing to say. Is freedom of speech now curtailed? Bit like it is in Iran?

    Sorry if the phrasing is strange for you Mr Woppit.
    But thank you so much for demonstrating my point, more eloquently than I could ever have put it, with your desire to include an anti-Iran comment in you post.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Ok, I’ll counter you with secret American warplane involvement in the 6 day war with Egypt…

    not that old chestnut.

    aracer
    Free Member

    Is there anyone in the world that America hasn’t fought?

    Depends if you include covert support for freedom fighters / terrorists.

    MrWoppit
    Free Member

    But thank you so much for demonstrating my point, more eloquently than I could ever have put it, with your desire to include an anti-Iran comment in you post.

    You’re welcome. Er, what was your point, exactly?

    hora
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    Depends if you include covert support for freedom fighters / terrorists.

    Not forgetting kidnap and assassination around the globe.

    If a Muslim shot dead a number of people in the States we’d all see it as an outrage and cowardly yet America kills ‘suspected’ terrorists leaders globally without a trial…

    Controversial?

    loum
    Free Member

    Mr Woppit – Member
    But thank you so much for demonstrating my point, more eloquently than I could ever have put it, with your desire to include an anti-Iran comment in you post.
    You’re welcome. Er, what was your point, exactly?

    ernie hit the nail on the head with his first post.
    The propaganda war has begun, and worked.

    And here it is for you, in full:

    ernie_lynch – Member
    I think it’s highly likely that Iran will be extensively bombed. We aren’t being fed this daily anti-Iranian propaganda for nothing.
    Whilst of course western governments kept very quiet about oil-rich Saudi Arabia announcing last week that they needed to build their own nuclear industry.
    China to Aid Saudi Arabia in Nuclear Power Development
    Still, the totalitarian regime in Saudi Arabia which stones to death its citizens are our mates, so that’s alright then. Specially as the Saudi regime is so stable that there is no chance it will fall into the hands of “extremists”

    And we come full circle, with your anti Iranian comment above

    Is freedom of speech now curtailed? Bit like it is in Iran?

    I’ve posted nothing new here, just made it easier for you to follow.
    Please keep up. 😉
    If you want a bit of background reading then ernie’s link was enlightening.
    http://www.fxstreet.com/fundamental/market-view/whats-going-on-in-the-oil-market/2012/01/19/
    I’d certainly not like to live in Iran myself, but if it is human rights that is you concern, Saudi Arabia appears worse.
    http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/iran/report-2011
    http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/saudi-arabia/report-2011
    I apologise if I’ve misinterperated your previous coments as in favour of bombing or invading Iran. Would you like to clarify this yourself?
    I assume you are not in favour of bombing/invading Saudi Arabia.
    For clarity, I believe we should not invade or bomb either, but once public opinion has been manipulated enough, we will attack Iran.

    MrWoppit
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    Apparently, final permission has to be given by the Prime Minister of the day before any of our nukes can be released.

    Denis Healey is recorded as saying that if he had been Prime Minister, he would have said no, if the strike had been in retaliation. His reasoning was that the damage already having been done, a counter-strike would simply have been from revenge and as such, would not have been useful in the broader humane sense.

    Interestingly, he is not recorded with an opinion as to the efficacy of a “pre-emptive” strike.

    The bombs dropped on Japan in 1945 are often held as an example of horror, yet they are also described as ending the war with a fraction of the cost of human life that would have resulted in seeing it through to the end by traditional means.

    Depends where you want to draw the line, I suppose. Moral absolutes, or pragmatic regrets…

    wrecker
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    I am not in favour of bombing anyone, however it is not possible to colour the saudis as fundamental nutjobs whilst claiming that the iranians are lovely people. The governments are just as bad as one another and I would imagine that the overwhelming majority in each country would choose a more liberal society given the option.

    loum
    Free Member

    Wrecker,
    Nobody is trying to

    colour the saudis as fundamental nutjobs whilst claiming that the iranians are lovely people

    .
    I’v shown that they are both very similar, hence the links to both of their unfavourable human rights records. You can make up your own mind which is worse if you need to, but both aren’t good.
    I actually commented that I certainly wouldn’t choose to live in Iran. However, It won’t get any easier for the people that do live there with bombs falling on them.

    wrecker
    Free Member

    I’m not saying they are loum, and my comments weren’t directed at anyone in particular but there is a subtle flavour or pro-iran/anti-saudi in some of the posts/thread.
    The americans are going to do whatever they want and their track record indicates what that’ll be. Ernie has it right that the media has started the indoctrine/brainwashing and it’s only going one way now unless our politicians show a bit of spine for a change. I shalln’t raise my hopes though.
    Someone far better informed than I posted an explanation of a possible (and convincing) motive for the invasion of iran (other than the obvious) the basis of which was a new pipeline.

    jumpupanddown
    Free Member

    there going to get nuked

    MrWoppit
    Free Member

    Given I’mADinnerJacket’s expressed intention of destroying them, by Israel I would imagine…

    grum
    Free Member

    Given I’mADinnerJacket’s expressed intention of destroying them

    So where did he actually say that? Have a read of this before repeating the misleading war-mongering propaganda

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm

    The Guardian’s Jonathan Steele cites four different translations, from professors to the BBC to the New York Times and even pro-Israel news outlets, in none of those translations is the word “map” used. The closest translation to what the Iranian President actually said is, “The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time,” or a narrow relative thereof. In no version is the word “map” used or a context of mass genocide or hostile military action even hinted at.

    The acceptance of the word “map” seemingly originated with the New York Times, who later had to back away from this false translation. The BBC also wrongly used the word and, in comments to Steele, later accepted their mistake but refused to issue a retraction.

    “The fact that he compared his desired option – the elimination of “the regime occupying Jerusalem” – with the fall of the Shah’s regime in Iran makes it crystal clear that he is talking about regime change, not the end of Israel. As a schoolboy opponent of the Shah in the 1970’s he surely did not favor Iran’s removal from the page of time. He just wanted the Shah out,” writes Steele.

    zippykona
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    If it all kicks off how likely are we to be involved and what would we gain? Our forces are spread thin and ill equipped surely we would have to sit this one out.
    I wish we could see that blindly following the septics as they blunder around the world is wrong.
    As an aside, the yanks charged us for helping out in world war 2 can we send them a bill for this centuries adventures?

    wrecker
    Free Member

    That’s an interesting website grum!

    kimbers
    Full Member

    i reckon the navy will jump at the chance to redeem themselves after they were humiliated by the iranians last time

    2004

    2007

    wrecker
    Free Member

    Crikey kimbers, you may have just changed my mind about the whole bombing thing. Maybe they’ve been poking the cage long enough?

    GEDA
    Free Member

    The interesting thing is how much of the worlds s**t that America is trying to “clean up” was actually caused by the USA and us in the past.

    Saddam – Tick
    Afghanistan – Tick
    Iran – Tick

    grum
    Free Member

    wrecker – Member
    That’s an interesting website grum!

    POSTED 54 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

    There’s plenty of other stuff about it available from less nutty sources, that was just one of the first that came up in a google search. It just goes to show how easily some things become ‘facts’. I’m no fan of ahmedinajad either way btw but anyone who seriously think he plans to nuke Israel is an idiot.

    There is an amazing double standard involved with Israel – a rogue state which regularly carries out major violations of all sorts of UN resolutions and international laws – being allowed nuclear weapons while we threaten war with Iran for doing the same.

    Lifer
    Free Member

    Anti-semite

    wrecker
    Free Member

    Only teasing grum; link to wherever you like!

    kimbers
    Full Member

    wrecker – Member

    Crikey kimbers, you may have just changed my mind about the whole bombing thing. Maybe they’ve been poking the cage long enough?

    i think in both cases it was us poking their cage by sending our military into their territory, ……..well thats how the iranians see it

    edit i thought grums website was a good read!

    ernie_lynch
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    hora – Member

    Is there anyone in the world that America hasn’t fought?

    Yeah as mentioned, you couldn’t be more wrong about Suez. In fact the complete reserve is true, ie, the United States very strongly condemned Britain, France, and Israel, for attacking Egypt. This was for a multitude of reasons including because after WW2 there was enormous pressure on Britain and France to dismantle their empires and reign back their imperialist behaviour. Also “vital” British and French interests did not automatically translate into vital US interests.

    But have a butchers at this list to see examples of US armed forces involvement in the last 120 years.

    SOUTH DAKOTA 1890 (-?) Troops 300 Lakota Indians massacred at Wounded Knee.
    ARGENTINA 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected.
    CHILE 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels.
    HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on Navassa defeated.
    IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses silver miners’ strike.
    HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.
    CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.
    NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
    CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in Sino-Japanese War
    KOREA 1894-96 Troops Marines kept in Seoul during war.
    PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval Marines land in Colombian province.
    NICARAGUA 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto.
    CHINA 1898-1900 Troops Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.
    PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos
    CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still hold Navy base.
    PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues.
    GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still use as base.
    MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake.
    NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.
    SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over succession to throne.
    NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields.
    IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army occupies Coeur d’Alene mining region.
    OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops Army battles Creek Indian revolt.
    PANAMA 1901-14 Naval, troops Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone; Opened canal 1914.
    HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution.
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution.
    KOREA 1904-05 Troops Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.
    CUBA 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election.
    NICARAGUA 1907 Troops “Dollar Diplomacy” protectorate set up.
    HONDURAS 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua
    PANAMA 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest.
    NICARAGUA 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.
    HONDURAS 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
    CHINA 1911-41 Naval, troops Continuous occupation with flare-ups.
    CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
    PANAMA 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election.
    HONDURAS 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
    NICARAGUA 1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation, fought guerillas
    MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution.
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
    COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking of miners’ strike by Army.
    MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists.
    HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts.
    TEXAS 1915 Troops Federal soldiers crush “Plan of San Diego” Mexican-American rebellion
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation.
    CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic protectorate.
    WORLD WAR I 1917-18 Naval, troops Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1 1/2 years.
    RUSSIA 1918-22 Naval, troops Five landings to fight Bolsheviks
    PANAMA 1918-20 Troops “Police duty” during unrest after elections.
    HONDURAS 1919 Troops Marines land during election campaign.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1919 Troops/Marines intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
    GUATEMALA 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against unionists.
    WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 Troops, bombing Army intervenes against mineworkers.
    TURKEY 1922 Troops Fought nationalists in Smyrna.
    CHINA 1922-27 Naval, troops Deployment during nationalist revolt.
    MEXICO 1923 Bombing Airpower defends Calles from rebellion
    HONDURAS 1924-25 Troops Landed twice during election strife.
    PANAMA 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike.
    CHINA 1927-34 Troops Marines stationed throughout the country.
    EL SALVADOR 1932 Naval Warships send during Marti revolt.
    WASHINGTON DC 1932 Troops Army stops WWI vet bonus protest.
    WORLD WAR II 1941-45 Naval, troops, bombing, nuclear Hawaii bombed, fought Japan, Italy and Germay for 3 years; first nuclear war.
    DETROIT 1943 Troops Army put down Black rebellion.
    IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
    URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
    GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
    GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
    CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
    PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
    PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
    KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
    IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
    VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
    GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov’t nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
    EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
    LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation against rebels.
    IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
    CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
    PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
    VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
    CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
    LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
    CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
    IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba’ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
    PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal’s return.
    INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines land during election campaign.
    GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
    DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
    CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
    OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
    LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; “carpet-bombs” countryside.
    SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
    CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
    CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gassing of captured ship Mayagüez, 28 troops die when copter shot down.
    ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
    IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
    LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
    EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
    NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
    LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions. 241 Marines killed when Shi’a rebel bombs barracks.
    GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
    HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
    IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
    LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple nationalist gov’t.
    BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
    IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war.
    LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
    VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
    PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
    PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
    SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
    IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
    KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
    IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
    LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
    SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
    BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
    HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
    ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Troops at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
    SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be “terrorist” nerve gas plant.
    AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
    IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
    MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
    AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry out occupation.
    YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
    PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
    COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
    IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi’ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
    LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
    HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington.
    PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network.
    SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, troops, command operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes, Cruise missile attacks and helicopter raids against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against “pirates” and insurgents.
    SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
    YEMEN 2009-? Missiles, command operation Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; Yemeni military assaults on rebels
    LIBYA 2011 Bombing, missiles, command operation NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks against Qaddafi government during uprising by rebel army.

    loum
    Free Member

    Did you type all that? 🙂

    redfordrider
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    Op – I’m more concerned that Iran is in fact setting a trap for the US and its allies. Luring carrier battle groups into the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf might be a perfect way to stack the odds in Iran’s favour. Carriers are designed to hide in the wide expanses of deep oceans. Iran has an impressive navy with really scary weapons. According to wikkipedia they have 26 submarines, supersonic anti ship missiles and supercavitating torpedoes that can travel over 300km/h!!! Let’s not forget that they are the heirs of the Persian empire who were masters at intrigue and deception.

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