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Christmas moral dilema
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Random speculations:
Instead of it just being a gift, maybe they were seeing your presence as a favour to them? Sometimes its very helpful to have non-immediate family around as it brings variety and freshness to conversation and fun. Maybe they need helping out?
You dont make it clear if your female friend has a partner - if not, could she or perhaps one of her family members or friends 'like' you and they were hoping to progress a friendship or romance?
Did you turn down the invitation in a way perceived as rude? - as in spirit of 'its awful you well off people to sit about being greedy, while I sacrifice my pleasures for the poor and gnaw on a mere bone, I am not prepared to behave like you'? If you were inadvertently implying anything of this nature, not surprising if they get hurt!
Whatever is gone on, if they are hurt or upset, I think you need to go talk to them, as clearly they were full of good intent and kindness and must expect to miss your presence or they would not care enough to be upset! Why not just nip round for an xmas drink, pre or after ride? Its a decent compromise. I myself am alone at Christmases, so I do understand the difficulties of the time of year. Its not easy.
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"Should i refuse, apologetically and go for a ride. "
surely you wont have a bike as you will have sold it and given the money to a homeless person.
Also I cant really see the moral problem with spending money on food I mean money is just work ie your friends work.
What would be more of a moral issue is if the restaurant was wasting large amounts of usable food, which all our supermarkets do. If you really believed this
"wasting that amount of money on a meal when there are people sleeping on the street,and going hungry),and dont want them to pay for me,so i have said i have other plans."
you would nt be able to live in our western society as it, or pretty much any society ever.
There a theory I heard that one of the reasons mammoths + other large animals became extinct was because stone age man was too lazy to preserve the meat.
Ie once people had successfully learned how to hunt these large creatures it was easier to go out and kill a new one and leave the old one rotting than it was preserve the old meat even though they might only eat half of it.
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**** me what a depressing thread. Treat your friends like this and you won't need to worry about it next year.
Talk to them, tell them how you feel, make them feel really guilty so that they don't go either and get them to donate all the money they would have spent to "Buy a wino a bottle of Thunderbird for Christmas" campaign and then you can all be depressed together Boxing day
MrNutt - Member
sod that, stay at home and spend the money on coke and hookers!
You won't get much coke and hooker action for £36
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Dont do things to please other people.. that will then leave you unhappy.
Not accepting a gift is rude (older generation consider it very rude so be careful!) and mentioning something else they could spend the money on for you is a kick in the baws.
Tell them you want to go biking.. and that you have arranged to meet a bunch of strangers on a forum called singletrackworld. Now go start up a new thread under yer real name and we will all back you up!
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but i dont believe in wasting that amount of money on a meal when there are people sleeping on the street,and going hungry
Not spending money on a meal won't help homeless people out, unless you spend the time / money you would have spent actually doing something to help them. You can't really feel self-righteous by eating a cheap meal in front of the TV or going for a ride.
It's sounds like you'd be happiest being miserable, so do that.
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Tell her you'll go but only if you're she agrees to dress up as scary spice and deliver full intercourse with all the trimmings.
Then take pics. And post em up.Posted 2 years ago # -
sounds like the best option is not to go, and ignore all the 'miserable' comments above. But if they're a good enough friend, I'm sure they'll understand if you explain your reasons.
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project - Member
Am thinking of getting a helmet camera,as i ride a road bike sometimes,ive had a few misses with cars coming a bit to close and being abusive,so thought id film my travels,want one thats penlght sized,also wear a rucksack so a recorder is no problem.but i dont believe in wasting that amount of money on a meal when there are people sleeping on the street,and going hungry
So food is a luxury but a helmet cam isn't?
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Friends are friends, don't waste them, so go for the meal. Surely you can forget all about the Xmas stuff and still enjoy a meal with friends?
The whole point of the Saturnalia is to lift one's spirits at the most miserable time of the year. You sound like you need a bit of Saturnalia to me. Just go with the flow.
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This should give you some Christmas cheer
Happy Holidays......
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ahhhh bo!!ocks. Why didn't that work?
LOL - sorry, I'm just shit with pooters.
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smart arse!
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Firstly i hate christmas,and all the comercialised trappings.I have no family,or kids.This year a freind and her family,want me to spend Boxing Day with them at an up market hotel,for Christmas Lunch,cost about 36 quid upwards,which they are paying for me,as a Christmas present(but i dont believe in wasting that amount of money on a meal when there are people sleeping on the street,and going hungry),and dont want them to pay for me,so i have said i have other plans.
This seems to have caused a problem for them.
So should i go and accept their very kind hospitality,and possibly be upset because i no longer have any parents,and no kids,and cant do the happy families thing.
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Should i go and try and enjoy a free meal,be chatty and funny as per usual even though deep down im really depressed at Christmas.or
Should i refuse,appologetically and go for a ride.
I think you should get things in proportion. There's a wagu beef sandwich in london for £84. A SINGLE SANDWICH.
No single starving person is going to be more likely to die because of you going to a hotel and enjoying a £36 christmas meal. If you think otherwise, then go to the hotel, put the meal in a bag, package it up and send it to 'em.Posted 2 years ago # -
GO FOR THE FREE MEAL ACCEPT THE GIFT GRACIOUSLY - BUT DONATE THE EQUIVELENT COST OF THAT MEAL TO A HOMELESS CHARITY.
you can then enjoy Christmas - and not feel guilty at the same time.Posted 2 years ago #
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