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higgo - Member

It was said yesterday that the combined Algerian teams wage didn't amount to the lowest England players wage, enough said really...
I don't know paid for what they're playing for England but I'm prepared to guess it's dwarfed by their club wages.

I struggle to work out what pay has to do with it. If they take up the option to represent their country they should aim to win, regardless of the wage. As it happens I don;t think there was much wrong with either the will to win or the effort put in on Friday. There were plenty of other problems (e.g. tactical, technical, mental preparation) but they wanted to win, tried to win and were obviously hacked off that they didn't.

David Beckham will be the next manager I reckon

God help us.

Posted 1 year ago #
mr potatohead - Member

if you look at crapello's gestures and body language on the line you'd think that he's no more impressed than the rest of us.once the players are on the field it's largely down to them and they just slip into the same hald arsed shit they have done for most recent managers

Posted 1 year ago #
Coyote - Member

but they wanted to win, tried to win and were obviously hacked off that they didn't.

Did we watch the same match? They looked absolutely clueless to me.

Posted 1 year ago #
higgo - Member

Did we watch the same match? They looked absolutely clueless to me

Yes, they looked clueless to me too. They didn't seem to have a clue how to win. That's different to not putting the effort in (which is what people seem to be accusing them of).

Posted 1 year ago #
molgrips - Member

I just can't see England beating Slovenia on the last 2 performances

Yeah but you just don't know which England are gonna turn up to you?

Posted 1 year ago #
Coyote - Member

Yes, they looked clueless to me too

But the best 23 players in the country should be able to play at this level. There doesn't seem to be cohesion or communication between the players. They were poor against the USA and absolutely disgraceful against Algeria.

Posted 1 year ago #
hora - Member

~~Capello to resign if England fail on Wednesday~~

I think its more likely
Capello to be quietly paid off if England fail on Wednesday

Posted 1 year ago #
mike-at-dialledbikes - Member

Capello is pretty blameless compared to the players and their lack of endeavour.

If Robert Green didn't have butter fingers, England would be joint top of the group and only needing a draw on Wednesday.

A mountain to climb against Slovenia, but not insurmountable if the players get their acts together.

Posted 1 year ago #
higgo - Member

But the best 23 players in the country should be able to play at this level.

Why 'should' they? When were we given this right?

Take a dispassionate look at some of the names in the 23 and I don't reckon we're underperforming too badly. It's more likely we over-qualified.

Posted 1 year ago #
saleem - Member

Look at Portugal 4 up at the moment against N Korea, England would probably be 0-0, desire, lacking at England, They shouldn't get paid to play for their counrty, that way you'd see who is passionate about playing for their national team.

Edit 5-0

Posted 1 year ago #
saleem - Member

make that 6, no 7-0

Posted 1 year ago #
higgo - Member

They shouldn't get paid to play for their country, that way you'd see who is passionate about playing for their national team.
Should we stop paying our Olympians, cricketers, rugby players etc too? I'm all for results based rewards but let's do it across the board.

Posted 1 year ago #
mastiles_fanylion - Member

I think we all need to stop getting on their backs now (including the media) and get behind them for Wednesday.

The time for recriminations is later and, barring a spectacular change in performances, will be needed and expected.

Posted 1 year ago #
oldgit - Member

molgrips are you saying that England FC are Bipolar?

Posted 1 year ago #
saleem - Member

£6 million a year for a part time job, not bad at all.

Posted 1 year ago #
Geronimo - Member

I'm not into football, but...

I did end up watching England v Algeria

Even to someone like me, with little idea of the subtle nuances of the game, the England players appeared very poor -I found myself wanting Algeria to score in order to spice things up a little.

The manager on the touch-line appeared as frustrated as the fans and it is ridiculous that people were immediately calling for his sacking after revering him so much for the past couple of years. How much influence does the manager have on an international team that gets together fairly infrequently?

The hype for the England team and for football in general is far beyond the reality. Football really isn't that exciting for 90% of the time and the England team didn't appear to be the conquerors of the world that some deluded souls appear to think that they are.

ps. Although it isn't entirely relevant to the Algeria game, the level of pay of the players(by clubs or otherwise) and the England manager(by the FA) is obscene.

I also find the worship and adulation given to people who can kick a ball skilfully quite distasteful, but I suppose that is up to the worshippers. I hope some of the clubs go bust as an example of how ridiculous and unsustainable their 'business' models are.

Posted 1 year ago #
Northwind - Member

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trailmonkey - Member

Northwind, we all know that the Sun are a bunch of idiots and don't represent what the fans think, so why are you posting that up ?

Posted 1 year ago #
nickjb - Member

We've played really badly an are still in with a chance of topping the group. Must be a pretty easy group.

Posted 1 year ago #
Northwind - Member

Trailmonkey- because it's fun to laugh at the Sun. Don't be so defensive.

Posted 1 year ago #
druidh - Member

Fixture list for this week looks good though..

Tuesday - Mexico meet Uruguay in Rustenburg
Wednesday - Australia meet Serbia in Nelspruit
Thursday - France meet England in the Airport

Posted 1 year ago #
scraprider - Member

lol @ druidh so very true mate, of coures only bringing home.....the duty frees.

Posted 1 year ago #
edhornby - Member

ok, ok, I'll do it - I'll take on the 'poisioned chalice' that is the england managers job

I'll just go into the press conferences, hand out paper with 11 lines on, tell each journo to write who they want and then go with the majority. bob's yer dad's bro, no criticism because the press pick the team and formation.

how hard can it be, just tell the truth from the outset, that the prem and champions league are preventing us from ever winning the world cup / euro's and that we should relax and enjoy the fact that we're at least good enough to get into the top 20ish

Posted 1 year ago #
don simon - Member

I can't help thinking that the problems are down to a player revolt and nothing to do with the manager. I feel that the presence of John Terry is not going to have a settling effect among his teammates, this article does nothing to make me change my mind.
John Terry is a mistake! Footballers are generally not the sharpest tools and might not be able to tell the difference between protesting against Terry and damaging the team...
Get rid of Terry and see what happens???

Posted 1 year ago #
Hairychested - Member

I'd play the 11 who haven't featured yet.

Posted 1 year ago #
mr potatohead - Member

it should be a good fixture on thursday........ england to meet france on the plane home !!!!!

Posted 1 year ago #
Coyote - Member

Drop Terry. He's overrated and a bottler anyway. Now we can add shit stirrer to the list.

Posted 1 year ago #
ocrider - Member

Looks like he's been hanging out with the French players at Chelsea for too long. I wont be unhappy to see him sitting on the bench with his tracksuit on for the entirety of the match.

Posted 1 year ago #
saleem - Member

Fabio has been a winner all his life so why would he not want to be now, the mans got balls like a gorilla, had as a player and now as a manager, not scared of dropping player, he admits to not wanting to play flashy football at the cost of success, If England can't win with the team he's picked, which are the best available in the country that's not his fault it's the players, Terry as good as a player as he is shouldn't be there anyway, it should be Wayne Bridge, albeit they play in different positions.

Posted 1 year ago #
Junkyard - Member

If England can't win with the team he's picked, which are the best available in the country that's not his fault it's the players

well only if he selcts the correct team.
Playing your best midfielder and one of the best in the country out of position on the left does not strike me as genius or not his fault.
Not picking Cole and insisting on playing Heskey with Rooney , who plays as alone striker and has never had a big target man at Man U etc is his fault.
That said any team should have beaten Algeria and they have perfomed poorly
I would play 4-2-3-1

Posted 1 year ago #
mr_krabs - Member

well only if he selcts the correct team.

You can hardly blame him for sticking with the team that did so well in qualification for the world cup. I'd be very surprised if he names the same side on Wednesday. It's clear that it isn't working.
Just to think had Rob Green kept out that shot we'd be sitting comfortably on 4 points right now, only needing a point to go through.
We need an early goal against Slovenia as we had against USA, that might settle the players so we don't end up with a repeat of the algeria game.
Hoping this John Terry stuff means they will get at them from the 1st whistle.

Posted 1 year ago #
iDave - Member

they'll go at them for 25 minutes, fail to get anywhere, passes will go astray, then they'll bottle it, rooney red carded, and so on.....

Posted 1 year ago #
trailmonkey - Member

iDave has it, except for the fact that they'll probably pick us off along the way.

The game against the USA showed that Slovenia play with 2 very regimented lines of 4, they were very hard to break down and potent on the counter. However, as soon as the US changed from their lines of 4 and passed around Slovenia, they took them apart. I cannot believe that if I could see that, the England staff could not. We have to be prepared to change things, hopefully from the start, if we're going to get the result we need. I rather suspect we won't and iDave's prediction will happen.

Posted 1 year ago #
iDave - Member

England fan's, and i'm not one, fail to even register that the players in other teams may actually be pretty handy, but crucially may lack the deluded arrogance and lack of team spirit that English premiership players seem to wallow in.

How good would Man U and Chelsea be with only English players?

Posted 1 year ago #
kimbers - Member

i think terry seems to be having a detrimental impact on the team

i cant see that his team mates would have judged him too harshly on his behaviour with wayne bidges missus, they are footy players after all,
but he seems very resentful of capello dropping him as captain and wayne bridges snub of him and then quitting the england squad and then his roasting in the press seems to have dented his enormous ego ,
which is one of his strengths and something i imagine the rest of the team depend on too.

the giving up after 25 mins thing is spot on
they are having some sort of morale problem, whether its terry being a dick, capello being a bully or their pampered lifestyle as underwear models or celeb party pap fodder i dont know

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