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That's poor logic. They survived, yes, but their circumstances were so completely different to mine that it's a pointless comparison.
Beg to differ on that.
My point is that we still have the same body as our ancestors, the same digestive system and all the other systems that go to run our bodies.
This is the message people appear to be overlooking.
Yes, this is the modern world, yes we are up to our eyes in food, lakes of wine, mountains of butter.
But we've pretty much got the physiology of someone who didn't exist in times of such abundance.
This, surely, is where the issue lies ?.Please bear in mind Solo that your experiences on the iDiet are a sample size of ONE. It works fine as you describe for your body, for your riding style and volume, and for your personality. Not everyone is the same. I've chosen to modify it slightly based on my own experience.
Well that told me !, sort of...
There will be slight differences between how yours and my body deal with food, but not so much as to make any significant difference, imo.
Which is why the iDiet is universally effective in the first place.
provided your follow the rules
Yes, rules. Not very fashionable perhaps, but your body has rules.
Understand them, then turn them to your will.
Blamming room service messing up your dinner order, as for why you eat chips isn't on message.
I too am chained to a desk, 13 hours a day.
I gym 2-3 times a week, I cycle once on a Sunday morning, with additional short trips into town over a Sat and Sun.
I too have had chips delivered even after I've asked room service to specifically omitt the chips from my meal.
They stay on the plate when its taken away, cos this is the rules.
This is not an issue of absorption and the differences between our metabolisms, specifically.
Its an issue of discipline, which is, imo, one very important facet of changing your diet.However, where we do certainly differ, is that I do not feel the need to set the world on fire, starting with the contact patch of my Bontrager Mud Xs.
Its Man's desire to race, which seems to lead to issues.
Some races are very long and as a consequence of racing itself, very fast.
I do not believe that we evolved to undertake such stressful endeavours.
But this doesn't mean that the body can't be pushed to do this.
Only question then is, if you do push it do you hurt yourself ?.I am free, mostly, of this feeling to compete to win.
So thereofore, I enjoy my particular sport, cycling, for what it is, not because I have to win.
But each to their own.
IF 16 hours per day?
Yes, sounds crazy, but I have experimented with it and its actually not so bad.
Kinda deserves another title as the word Fasting sounds extreme.
And, of those 16 hours, you're asleep for 6-8 of them.
Hence the word Breakfast, which is as old as the hills.I seem to share similar experiences to Staralfur. reading those posts it would seem I'm not a unique case.
And why do people eat all the protein supplements instead of actual food. Did anyone see the body building couple on Food Hospital last night?
Yeah, I was channel hoping and found that program.
For that couple, their bodies are their hobbies.
What a huge amount of food they were consuming.
Not my scene.As for the protien/body building supps, I'm at a loss as for why people take them.
I have read a bit on LeanGains and all that supp stuff isn't for me.However, I do occasionally pop a fish oil/omega 3, but only when I remember to........
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Solo's keyboard earlier:
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Jamie.
Very sorry, but that is a permanent feature/button, I'm affraid.
As you know, I'm using emoticons in places where what I have written might otherwise be read as me being grumpy / nasty.
Which is not my intention.
I know I have a certain writing style, and I try to mitigate this with smilies.
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I prefer the previous keyboard
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I wouldn't advocate eating protein supplements to eating proper meals, I use them as an additional source of protein, most of my protein comes from meat, fish, eggs. I normal eat two bags of salad a day. But, when weight sessions range from HIIT to 2hrs+ of lifting, I need to supplement to ensure I can promote growth as I want. Well that's my theory and so far the results are proving this.
As for the supplements, amino acids, creatine, magnesium, zinc, assorted vitamins, useful for development. Thermogenics, kick start the metabolism for fat burn, I'm on the last few days of these. Products like Jack3d are great for intense workouts, but aren't that necessary, I don't use it that often.
As for sugar consumption has shot up in the last few seconds of evolution, sadly this is compounded by the cheap form of sugar now used, High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's cheap and comes from Corn, so effectively you're body gets something very sweet from grain, which gives you a massive insulin spike, your cells, suck all the energy in and wow! obesity! You only have to look at the baskets of food of fat people in the supermarket, my basket, is fruit, veg, meat and fish. Their's a bunch of processed junk, based on massive carb intake, tasted up with lots of corn syrup. But whilst the govt. promote convential wisdom regarding diet, because let's face it agriculture groups lobby well, and people don't want to face up to the true financial cost of eating healthy, they'll get fat. They, like to blame someone else, big pharma will cure my gut, and they are too thick to get off the lard butts and think is this synthetic junk what my body really needs. But, I'll tell you what really gets me about the primal/paleo diet; and that is the blinkered view of medical professionals, especially when you have fat nurses smoking, telling you that a diet made up of non processed food with high meat consumption isn't really healthy because you'll have high chloesterol. Like they are a role model of health!Posted 5 months ago # -
You only have to look at the baskets of food of fat people in the supermarket
Yes, I have found myself looking at the trollies which prop up the driver as they haul their load of spuds, pasta, bread and an assortment of snacks along with ping meals and low fat foods.
To the check out.
I try not to stare...I once spotted a young couple, mid 20s. Staring at the ping meal section in Sainsbury's.
I passed by only to return some 10 mins later, heading to another part of the store.
They were still there, trying to decide what to take home, remove the lid and microwave.
At the time I thought that if they stood there for much longer, then the time taken to choose their ping meal could have been spent making a meal at home, using real food.Its a funny Ole world.
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At the time I thought that if they stood there for much longer, then the time taken to choose their ping meal could have been spent making a meal at home, using real food.
Brilliant.
Please keep amusing things like that for your shorter posts.
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Please keep amusing
I try.
Thanks for recognizing this.
I love you too.[emoticon] . [/emoticon]
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Sorry, ignore.
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However, judging from this thread, a nasty side-effect is writing incredibly long-winded posts and not using paragraphs. I wonder when i'll succumb
If you've got time to fast, then you've got time to read...
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finbar, I can't and I won't.
What?
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Ooh !.
I've out Edit-Ninja'd TSY before.
Now Finbar.Must be the diet.....
I did have some almonds 20 mins ago.
Perhaps my Orexin is kickin in.
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Sorry Solo / TSY, i was being mean so i deleted it.
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Finbar.
Please, none taken, really.
This is just a forum, and so doesn't amount to.... a..... hill-O.....
Beans ?.I'll get my coat.
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Finbar - don't make me recite the 10 STW diet thread commandments to you.
It's all about being po-faced mean, we're not jolly fatties anymore, we're miserable sugar free bastards.
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we're miserable sugar free bastards
Good point. Nuts to the lot of you*.*But not peanuts. Too much omega 6.
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Just to add to the argument: Interesting article from Wired.
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miserable sugar free bastards
Jamie, the emoticon police, would have to disagree on account of how many I use.
**What he can't possibly know is that I'm on commision**
Anyway, very little sugar for me.
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But not peanuts. Too much omega 6
Yeap, and they aint nuts.
They're legumes !.
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Mogrim.
iDave seems to have posted a link to that article on page 2.
I've mailed him about it, but he doesn't reply to me anymore.
iDave hates me.
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Solo - emoticons just hide clown tears.
I never use them, because I'm just soooo happy.
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I never use them, because I'm just soooo happy
Wish my grammar was as good.Happy ?.
Must be something to do with your new found love.
We'll blame her.Posted 5 months ago # -
I was very thin when I was a vegan. Was still healthy though.
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"I've mailed him about it, but he doesn't reply to me
anymoreinstantly."Posted 5 months ago # -
"I've mailed him about it, but he doesn't reply to me anymore instantly."
How dangerous is an angry iDave, anyone ?.
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Haven't you ever wondered about what the next step in the iDiet is...?
All I'll say is it involves eating lean meat of less than 12% bodyfat that has been fed on a diet of mainly legumes.
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we're not jolly fatties anymore,
Speak for yourself. I am in holiday mode....
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All I'll say is it involves eating lean meat of less than 12% bodyfat that has been fed on a diet of mainly legumes
Tuesday, I consumed most of one side of a wild alaskan salmon.
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My point is that we still have the same body as our ancestors, the same digestive system and all the other systems that go to run our bodies
We do. But, they evolved to take advantage of a huge variety of foods. In paeleolithic times different groups of people ate quite different things. Those on the coast ate seafood, those in the tropics ate fruit, those on the plains ate big game and so on. So the idea that there's one diet we need to eat on evolutionary grounds is bogus imo.
There will be slight differences between how yours and my body deal with food, but not so much as to make any significant difference, imo
There are huge differences. How many people do you know who eat normally and are skinny buggers? How many people do you know who stuff their faces and are skinny? I know loads.
I also know people who eat pretty modestly and are fat. A girl I knew at uni spent £5/week on food and was pretty much obese.
Only question then is, if you do push it do you hurt yourself ?.
Or, to put it another way - if you DON'T push it, do you hurt yourself? You are more than a metabolism!
To me, the idea of just whiling away my days tootling about the countryside on beans is a bit sh*t. But that's part of the glory of existence - we are all different mentally as well as physically.
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Eat natural foods that would have been available to our ancestors, lift heavy stuff, run occasionally like you were running for your life, wear a seatbelt in your car, maybe wear a helmet on your bike, etc. Hopefully you'll live a long and happy life, still you could be killed by the TB infected badger that attacks whilst out on a night ride or the twunt in a white van!
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To me, the idea of just whiling away my days tootling about the countryside on beans is a bit sh*t
.. I might add, it's also potentially a bit dangerous - too
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