Was at a bike shop today that did cotic and that's what I was told. Something to do with costs. Shame as it's a lovely bike.
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Are cotic canning the soda?
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Posted 8 months ago #
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Either way, 10/10 for the pun.
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That's the rumour I'd heard too. I was surprised. It would be a real shame.
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surprising looking at the other low volume importers
warranty issues driving up costs?
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I saw one in trail junkies today. Sell my wife for one
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That would explain why when I phoned to enquire when more size small frames would be available they couldn't tell me. Shame as I really wanted to spend the only bonus I've had in 6 years on my dream ti frame
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They'd better not, seeing as I've been saving for one ever since I took the original prototype for a lap of Sherwood Pines car park about 7 years ago......
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Simwit: They have tracked some small frames down in Germany, according to Facebook, so you can have one if you're quick.
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rob2, was at trail junkies today too, that was indeed a lovely Soda.
It is a shame if they do stop making it as if I was to have just one bike then it'd probably be the Soda.
The chap at the shop suggested it was something to do with cost of manufacture meaning Cotic couldn't sell them at the price point they wanted. Anyone got anymore insight?
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I'm sure there will be some 29 ti action if the steel one goes well.
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I am sure that Cy will be along soon to confirm or deny.
Just glad I have mine and after riding it again this morning, really glad
Be a shame if it were true mind.Posted 8 months ago # -
bol, where do I need to look on Farcebook for those? Oh & cheers very muchly by the way
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How much lighter than the Soul is the Soda?
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Believe it's over a pound lighter, something like 4.4 for the soul and 3.3 for the soda (for the 16").
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Dimwit: guv Cy or Paul a call at Cotic - it was their page. I think they've got mediums and their german distributor has got small and large. I'm on my second and can really recommend it. MrB, they're about a pound lighter, and probably no better in reality, but very very nice to own and ride.
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If they replace the soda with a Ti 29er then no complaints here. 29ers are the future after all.
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Can anyone compare the ride of the Soda vs the Soul?
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From someone who has owened 2 Ti frames (and nearly a Soda), I am now somewhat choked that my new Reynolds 520 Cro-moly tubed genesis rides somewhat better than them both. I seriously! cannot believe how comfy it is.
Weight issue / looks aside, I would never consider Ti again.Posted 8 months ago # -
I hope that was a typo bol
I couldn't find it on their Facebook page hence the Q. Have now found it on the website news page so all good
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Simwit: sorry, bloody iPhone. And alcoholic haze.
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Mmm alcohol, fully understood
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iPhone spell correction, that's how are start.
As for Soda vs Soul, the price difference is the cost of a cross bike, settles it for me.
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"That's how WARS start"
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I've owned both mk1 soul & mk1 soda. The Soda was awful. It flexed more than a wet noodle and felt like it would snap on the 1st opportunity. I wouldn't hesitate in recommending a soul over the Ti soda.
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Can anyone compare the ride of the Soda vs the Soul?
I much prefer the ride of the Soul, a more stable and planted feeling for me, far more confidence-inspiring. My Mk 1 Soul's been going strong since whenever Cotic brough them out, my Soda cracked across the seat tube/top tube junction within a year.
The Soda was awful. It flexed more than a wet noodle and felt like it would snap on the 1st opportunity
I didn'tthink it was anything like that bad, and it wasn't on quite the first opportunity.
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Just look at it though, it's a thing of beauty!
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Sometimes it is about dreams and goals rather than facts on paper. Personally, I have always wanted (rather than needed)a Ti frame, I just get a real buzz everytime I look at it or ride it.
I have always wanted a Fireblade, way to fast for the public roads of course but I have always wanted one.
At least when I get older I can regret owning them (probably not!) rather than regret not owning them at all !!!Posted 8 months ago # -
mildred - Member
I've owned both mk1 soul & mk1 soda. The Soda was awful. It flexed more than a wet noodle and felt like it would snap on the 1st opportunity. I wouldn't hesitate in recommending a soul over the Ti soda.
Later models aren't like that at all though. First one I understand was intentionally designed that way to give that classic ti feel, but it turns out most people don't actually want that from a titanium bike any more
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I had one of the last Taiwanese ones, with a 31.6 seatpost, which certainly didn't feel noodley under my not unsubstantial weight. I now have a Lynskey one which is stiffer still, but still lovely and compliant.
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I actually prefer the sound of the original one.
Ti should be flexy. Stiff rigid Ti just sounds wrong. Just use Alu.Very nearly bought one 2nd hand but new forks needed first so they got bought. Hopefully I'll get it 3rd hand instead as it went to a friend.
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Without wishing to get into the deep and and disputed water surrounding the relative characteristics of metals, suffice to say the soda has never and felt remotely like aluminium. Everything is relative. Not sure it feels much different to 853 steel mind you.
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tomlevell - Member
Ti should be flexy. Stiff rigid Ti just sounds wrong. Just use Alu.
Clearly you've not ridden one then. Stiffer =/ stiff and rigid
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Anyone from the weekday shift know if the soda is no more?
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We currently don't have plans to re-stock Sodas. We've got about 4 left in medium, then that's it for the moment.
Basically they've not sold that quickly since we switched to Lynskey and the higher price point, and when we went to order earlier in the year, Lynskey hit us with a pretty hefty price rise for the existing layout, and a huge price quote with a 44mm head tube, which is the way I wanted to go. We'd have been looking at £1,650 minimum in existing spec and nearly £2k with a 44mm head tube. I just didn't see where the sales would come from given that we've sold about 30 all year. With the new projects we're financing like the 29er, just made sense to let it run through and stop. So no, there aren't any plans for ti 29er.
It's lovely so many of you would lament their passing, but in reality they're massively expensive to buy and stock, and are only getting more expensive, and I can't support that when we have volume sellers (for us) costing the same as a handful of ti frames that don't move that quickly.
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Sorry to see it go, I love mine. But fair to say I would not consider paying £1650
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