cos actually, would really kinda like to keep my ti hardtail and SS it but vertical drop outs and i really really dont want a chain device thingy, so is it the ecc b bracket thing or is there yet bolt on, weld on, magic on, iron on vertical to horizontal solution???
goes back and tops up wine thinkin that all of that makes perfect sense.....
SBO,
I've been doing the rounds to try and get a "magic" bit of kit that will SS my Inbred, looked at external EBBs, retro fitting sliding drop outs and tensioners. After a lot of looking around I think the external EBB, Forward Components or one of these YESS tensioners,YESS, will be my choice.
Not sure if you can buy the FC external EBB in the UK, but the YESS kit can be had from CRC and is cheaper in the UK than in the US.
Hope this helps.
Have you looked at a White Industries Eccentric Hub available from http://www.charliethebikemonger.com
http://www.trickstuff.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=414
makes your normal bb into an external EBB.
^ like they said; Excentricker / that american solution for retro EBB or a White ind Eno hub (they do a disc and a non-disc version of the hub) Price is about the same for each component except ofc you have to have the hub built into a wheel
Otherwise, if you're lucky you can find the "golden ratio" for your frame. charliethebikemonger has some advice on that. If you're bold, you can also file off one side of your rear axle so it forms a teardrop profile, and you can get some adjustment that way by rotating the axle before clamping the QR. It's a bodge though and doesn't offer enough adjustment to guarantee a solution (less than half a link adjustment) so you still need to get lucky / faff with chainrings and sprocket teeth numbers to get it right.
New drop outs are definitely do-able and probably worth it on a Ti frame, but I would expect 200+ GBP for the work (that's a guess) At least with Ti you don't need to worry about repainting...!
Of the above, I'd probably go with the Eno, but I must admit I like the look of that forward components EBB, not seen that before.
Thought the disc version of the eno hub was not straightforward. Best bet to talk to sidewayscycles about that. Somebody here fitted the excentriker thing which worked well but they had to grind off the inner chainring fixings of their cranks as they fouled the BB.
You might try the magic ratio route possibly with a half-link but you'll need the various chainrings and sprockets all at hand.
There's a lot of stuff about the Forward Components EBB over on mtbr. It seems less picky than the Excentiker (sp?), claims to fit all (external-style) cranks without issue. They're even developing one for square-taper.
It would be my choice personally, but a nice White Bros. wheel could sway me too.
Magic ratio will be fine for a while, after you've mucked around finding it, but as the chain stretches and wears it'll start to skip much quicker than any other setup.
I mostly ride singlespeed and for that I always use a DMR Tensionseeker and I have never had a problem with it.
On my Cotic Soul I find 34:18 is a magic ratio for a new chain and after few rides I need to put the tensioner back on. As long as you use it in "push up" mode it doesn't spoil the look too much, and it doesn't slip.
34:18 is a magic ratio
Not being a 2:1 - can that be called a magic ratio or just a convenient ratio?
WI Eccentric disc hub here fantastic piece of kit able to change freewheels very easily without messing with chain length.SS the geared frame through the winter back to gears in Late march
32:17 or 34:18 are my ratios of choice.
Forward Components EBB or that nice hub will be the way, thanks all!
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