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1. jhw - Member

   What was it like?

   Just wondering, death of bassist from Alice in Chains today, favourite band, so sad. Can you explain it?

   Posted 1 year ago #
2. bravohotel8er - Member

   I quite fancy Wonder Woman.

   Posted 1 year ago #
3. samuri - Member

   Ripley for me.

   Posted 1 year ago #
4. tazzymtb - Member

   the bad ladies are always much nicer than the heroines, they're normally in tight black leather for a start

   Posted 1 year ago #
5. Jamie - Member

   International Women's Day was yesterday OP.

   ...but then it was the centenary so will let you off.

   Posted 1 year ago #
6. TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member

   Nope, but know a few that have.

   It's bloody horrible at first by all accounts.

   Tried pretty much most things, but won't go near that muck.

   Posted 1 year ago #
7. winston_dog - Member

   Ignore them all.

   This is what you need to know The real stuff

   Being from the North East I'm biased though.

   Posted 1 year ago #
8. mcmoonter - Member

   Marilyn Monroe for me

   Posted 1 year ago #
9. RealMan - Member

   

   Posted 1 year ago #
10. tazzymtb - Member

    in another life - yes

    Posted 1 year ago #
11. Elfinsafety - Member

    Closest I've come is Diamorphine in hospital, which is the same thing.

    The best way I can describe the effects is that it gives you a feeling of incredible, utterly supreme comfort. You can feel quite nauseous at first, but that soon passes. All the stresses and pains of life melt away, and you feel blissfully relaxed. Not 'out of body', but quite 'floaty'. Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh.......

    I can understand it's appeal, and can see just how dangerous it is. Nothing in the World matters, when you're smacked up. Nothing.

    Very 'moreish'.....

    Posted 1 year ago #
12. maxray - Member

    Gutted, drugs have had a proper grip on that band. Loved man in a box and the like. Shall have an aic morning on spotify tomorrow.

    Have never tried it but have such an addictive personality that it would end in tears if I did..

    Posted 1 year ago #
13. druidh - Member

    No, but I once lived with someone who was an addict. Other than the inability to hold down a job, constantly feeling ill, the blackouts and selling her body to any disease-ridden punter to pay for it, it all seemed fine.

    Posted 1 year ago #
14. jhw - Member

    mmm

    I just wonder what the high's like.

    Also, I think it has a great image compared to cocaine, which is associated with Patrick Bateman and the worst of David Bowie. I know you shouldn't glamorise it especially in the circumstances but does anyone like Primal Scream's recent stuff?!? Or the Chilis - they've done nothing since Californication and even that was borderline.

    I pumped Rain When I Die loud enough this evening when I got home from work that the neighbour complained, but I ignored her. Greatest band of a period when there were many, many great bands.

    Posted 1 year ago #
15. Elfinsafety - Member

    I'll be completely honest, it's one of the nicest highs I've ever had. Amazing.

    The drug itself, if used safely and cleanly, is relatively harmless; it's the shit it gets cut with and the lifestyle that surrounds it's use, for most addicts, that's the problem.

    You could use Heroin every day, and be perfectly healthy, if you had a clean supply and clean needles, and injected carefully. It's a physically far less destructive drug than tobacco, alcohol and many others.

    Posted 1 year ago #
16. grum - Member

    I had Diamorphine in hospital too and it's just as Fred says - probably the most warmly satisfied, blissfully content feeling I've ever had. No wonder people get addicted to it.

    Posted 1 year ago #
17. RichPenny - Member

    +1000 for the Diamorphine

    Posted 1 year ago #
18. jhw - Member

    Yeah, like Keith Richards

    Posted 1 year ago #
19. freddyg - Member

    I haven't tried it, but I did watch my cousin die as a result of her addiction. It took about 20 years and was so very sad

    Her sister is also hooked as a direct result of trying to get her off it. She will go the same way too.

    Posted 1 year ago #
20. The Southern Yeti - Member

    Thankfully I have enough self awarness to know I possess an incredibly addictive personality.

    Posted 1 year ago #
21. winston_dog - Member

    Horses for courses.
    Diamorphine made me feel so sick I preferred to take the pain from my shoulder op than use the self admin I was given in hospital.
    Its complete bollox to say any drug is "harmless", its all a matter of individual circumstances and personality/genetic make up.
    One man's meat is another man's poison.

    Posted 1 year ago #
22. grum - Member

    Its complete bollox to say any drug is "harmless"

    It's not poisonous like alcohol or tobacco though.

    Posted 1 year ago #
23. Elfinsafety - Member

    Yeah of course. What I meant was Heroin is relatively harmless if you compare it to alcohol and tobacco. Some folk are allergic to aspirin and stuff like that. Aspirin is still relatively harmless though.

    Horses for courses

    Ketamine is for horses....

    Posted 1 year ago #
24. TandemJeremy - Member

    Winston - heroin usage causes few health issues - far less than alcohol for example. Its all the stuff surrounding the addiction and the prohibition that causes the harm. A junkie with a plentiful supply of clean heroin does not come to much harm. Its just you only ever hear about the people with chaotic lifestyles

    see William Burroughs for example

    You do need a lot of money tho. Much petty crime is driven by heroin addiction

    Posted 1 year ago #
25. ernie_lynch - Member

    A junkie with a plentiful supply of clean heroin does not come to much harm. Its just you only ever hear about the people with chaotic lifestyles

    It's the unknown purity which is the killer - it leads to fatal overdoses.

    Posted 1 year ago #
26. Elfinsafety - Member

    And nuts. Some folk are allergic to nuts.

    Posted 1 year ago #
27. john_drummer - Member

    I had a mate I was in a band with for about 5 years. he had an addictive personality. First booze, then dope, then speed, then acid, coke, addicted to them all. But he never ever tried smack.

    until one day he decided he wanted to go clean, so he checked into a rehab group. Where he met a woman who happened to be a smackhead.

    He tried it.

    once.

    You shouldn't be going to funerals of thirtysomethings.

    RIP Ed Johnson

    Posted 1 year ago #
28. Garry_Lager - Member

    It's not poisonous like alcohol or tobacco though.

    And ale and ciggies aren't poisonous like heroin either - which has acute toxicity in a way that they do not.

    Not heard of too many people ODing on a session of booze, although it's probably possible. Probably impossible if you're not already an alcoholic (ie chronically abusing the drug already).

    Posted 1 year ago #
29. The Southern Yeti - Member

    Nope, never heard of anyone having to have their stomach pumped

    Posted 1 year ago #
30. loddrik - Member

    I'm a scouser so of course I have

    It was absolutely brilliant. Like a massive warm glove enveloping you and then having really lucid dreams although awake, about the nicest I have ever felt. I've had it a few times but cocaine was always my drug. Deliberately didn't have heroin too much as didn't want to get too comfortable with it. Wish I'd made that decision with coke though which I hammered for well over a decade!

    Every time I had heroin I threw up pretty violently the next day.

    The 'badder' a drug is, the nicer the drug is. All drugs are fine in moderation, it's when you abuse them that they become problematic.

    Posted 1 year ago #
31. TandemJeremy - Member

    Garry - heroin is not a poison

    yes its is possible to OD. You stop breathing as it supresses the breathing reflex. a shot of naran and you are right as rain.

    Again as ernie says its the illegality of it that leads to variable purity and thus ODs

    however A&E is full of people who have ODed on alcohol and there is no antidote for that. Alcohol ODs rarely kill - but do so sometimes.

    Posted 1 year ago #
32. user-removed - Member

    I have an old and very dear friend who runs his own succesful business, has a lovely wife and three very well brought up kids and who also happens to be a smack addict.

    He's a very together guy - much more so than I'll ever be. His life though is filled with the constant hassles of having to score - he has to deal with all kinds of unsavory types and runs the constant risk of getting arrested obviously, which would be utterly devestating for him as he seems to buy large amounts infrequently, rather than small amounts daily.

    Yes he has a choice - he says he's self-medicating, and it's certainly true that he used to be a bit of a miserable bugger very depressed before he started using and seems happy and well adjusted now.

    Posted 1 year ago #
33. MrNutt - Member

    Alice in chains would not have existed or combusted if it wasn't for their consumption of Heroin. That is a fact.

    Heroin is a cXXt. It killed friends of mine, with their (my friends) help.

    nb. I like their music.

    Posted 1 year ago #
34. xiphon - Member

    Horses for courses
    Ketamine is for horses....

    Special K!

    Done most drugs, but heroine is one I will never try. Ever.

    Soon learn which drugs your mind/body can handle, and which it can't.

    Posted 1 year ago #
35. duckman - Member

    I grew up in Dundee, when I was in my mid-teens (80'S) Dundee had more HIV positive per head than anywhere in Scotland,because of needle sharing.So no, sod that.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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