I'm just a little skeptical given the way some species behave.
Which explains why I used the word "generally". Killing members of your own species is generally not natural, not even for species which need to kill every day.
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A philosophical question on murder.
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But murder is OK when it's the state that sanctions it, yeah?
Yeah.
By becoming a soldier you are making a pre-meditated choice about killing and being killed.
Correct.
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Being a soldier isn't all about killing is it?
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Probably and Probably !
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My mother warned me that one day my now wife would push me too far and I'd kill her.
There have been occassions in the 15 years since then that the thought of having my mother visit me in prison once a week for 30 years to say "I told you so!" has made whatever the issue was to pale in comparison.
And I'm sure MrsMCTD would say the same about me!
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Killing members of your own species is generally not natural
Happens all the time in the animal kingdom dunnit? Male Lions will kill the offspring of other males before taking over a pride so he can mate with the mother, for example.
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Probably would be dead. Definitely would have killed someone.
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Surrounded By Zulus - Member
If there were no murder laws would you: A - still be alive and B - have killed anyone yet?
A. Yes, will still be alive.
B. No, if they have seen my zombie Bennelli shotguns. (preventive)
C. If they push their luck ... yes, Bennelli shotguns will answer them (note Bennelli is auto reload so very fast).
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Happens all the time in the animal kingdom dunnit?
Well I saying it doesn't happen all the time. Most species do not kill members of their own species most of the time. Sometimes some species sometimes kill members of their own species. But generally they don't. Obviously you don't agree with me though.
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I'm just saying it's natural in the animal kingdom and quite common, which it is.
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And I'm just saying it generally isn't natural in the animal kingdom, which it isn't.
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how is something that happens in nature not natural?
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double post
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a) most probably - I don't generally piss people off too much. Apart from the wife, of course.
b) I initially thought yes, but then I was once offered a free "hit" on someone who at the time I thought really needed it, and I turned it down. My "yes" would have been the same person.Posted 4 months ago # -
Let me help you Jon, because I get the impression English isn't your first language.
generally
adv.
1. Popularly; widely.
2. As a rule; usually.
3. For the most part.Posted 4 months ago # -
And I'm just saying it generally isn't natural in the animal kingdom, which it isn't.
What do you mean by "generally isn't natural"? Define: natural. Shirley you just mean that it isn't common? It only needs one example of one animal regularly killing members of its own species, thus demonstrating that it's not anomalous, and you have yourself something that could be considered natural. The example I gave of the chimps is sufficient evidence to disprove your assertion.
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The point is that it DOES generally happen in the animal kingdom. I'm not arguing semantics. Another example is Female Black Widows eat Male Black Widows after they mate. It happens all the time.
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druidh - Member
But murder is OK when it's the state that sanctions it, yeah?
Are you on your high horse again?
Answer the questions! Stop being so anal FFS!
Why do you have to answer with a question?
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It happens all the time.
No it doesn't.
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Are you on your high horse again?
High Horses kill Low Horses in nature, you know.Posted 4 months ago # -
No it doesn't
Erm..... have you googled "cannibalism in the animal kingdom"?
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have you googled "cannibalism in the animal kingdom"?
No I haven't, tell me about it.......is it something which most species engage in ?
Is it something which we generally find in nature ?
Are carnivores just as likely to eat their own species as they are other species ?
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No, yes.
The only difference between a murderer and a hero is the opinion of their peers.
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we could kill as we pleased without comeuppance? Then what would all the other laws matter really? cos you could just kill anyone that tried to enforce them. All laws would break down. I'd **** off to the hills on my bike, but I'd fall off and some twunt would come along and take my bike, and hey ho kill me in the process as there is no come-uppance anyway unless I killed hime/her first. Essentially, It'd be all about who has the best weapons and/or defenses - those who can afford them, but they would be overrun sooner or later by the numbers. A bit like a zombie movie. (that's a train of thought there...)
err a) no b) no
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There are people alive because I can't afford a hitman
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ooh yeah, you'd be so scary if you were rich
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Yes. Yes.
perhaps, Even if the laws were revoked, there would be the unwritten laws surrounding the sacredness of killing. (Who is to be forgiven, Commitalus[sp]) So laws regardless, just no consequence. Unless you count the brother of the man killing you being granted the right to kill you.
stratobiker - Being a soldier isn't all about killing is it?
I am unsure you are aware of who a soldier works for.. or what that employers main concern of existence is.. So I will let you know.. Just because a Soldier isn't there to kill someone, he would be a fool to not accept the fact he might.Posted 4 months ago # -
it's probably some psychological test so that those who answered b) yes, can be collated and sent back by SBZ to his head office.
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You're going on my list, ernie_lynch.
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There was a similar discussion about this on mumsnet the other day but in relation to rape. Someone said that if rape was not illegal and sex was offered to a man on a plate, whether the the other person was willing or even conscious ALL men would rape. I thought that was a pretty sad reflection on the interactions she must've had with men to date.
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