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  • 5-Spot or El Ciclon?
  • jamesgarbett
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    Anyone tried both?

    coogan
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    Nope. Had a HL 5 Spot and now a DW 5 Spot. Fantastic bikes. Would like to try a Ventana, they look beautifully built frames. Try over at MTBR.com, bound to be someone had/tried both.

    jamesgarbett
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    El Ciclon uses bearings, Turner bushings, which is better?

    coogan
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    I'd say bushings as Turners come grease ports on all the pivots to keep 'em topped up. My HL 5 Spot was over five years old and was only on its second set of bushings. Like I say, no experience of Ventana's, so don't know how the bearing last.

    khani
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    04 spot here one set of bushings at 3 years old and still going strong, easy to change as well, no presses or pullers or hammers needed and a nice touch is the pivot bolt threads are part of the bushing and not part of the frame so if you strip/crossthread a pivot bolt the frame is still ok

    takisawa2
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    06' El Ciclon here. Not ridden a 5-Spot.
    Had a Brain-Shocked Enduro before. Compared to that the Ventana has very active suspension. Certainly a more supple ride, not wollowy/bouncy, just very smooth. I tend to ride mostly with the ProPedal on & knock it off for descents. Very very stiff frame, no noticeable flex at all.
    In honesty it has way way more ability than I have. Coil Pikes up front, running at 130mm most of the time.
    Build quality is good, first glance it doesn't grab you, but look closely & there's lots of small detail. Excellent paint also.
    As above with being easy to service. Frame is in bits in minutes, literally. Mine still on original bearings, AFAIK.
    Bought mine S/H off here. Only downside is having to remove the upper shock bolt to add air, was sorted on the 08' on I think, (different shock top end).

    jamesgarbett
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    Hi Paul what size is that?

    takisawa2
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    Medium.

    jamesgarbett
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    And what's the mud clearance like?

    takisawa2
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    Good. Has 2.35 Kendas on at the moment, bit draggy now the Chase is a mud pit. Might go to 2.1's for the Winter.
    keep an eye on THIS FlickR set, I'm just uploading some more pics now.

    khani
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    i think ventana used to make frames for turner many moons ago, they look very similer construction wise so i dont think there's anything in it lookswise or in build quality, you need to demo them to see which you prefer ridewise, but i don't think either would be crap anyway

    jamesgarbett
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    Thanks all

    Vortexracing
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    Dickie off here has both. He is sellinga large Ventana El Ciclon over on the classifieds.

    Bearings on the Ventana will last a good 2-3 years. They have on both my X5's.

    but i don't think either would be crap anyway

    he is spot on with that.

    Just a small point is that Alan at Riverside cycles (importer) of Ventana is one of the nicest honest guys you could meet.

    John_Key
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    I have owned both bikes and like the turner better. The DW set up is better than what the ventana has. The ventana can bob a bit without the propedal on.

    Try both out

    jamesgarbett
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    Thanks John – looking at TNT not DW Spot

    overthehill
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    same as John, in that I have owned both: I had an el ciclon and now ride a DW spot. Both are fantastic rides, up and down, but the spot is more lively (in a good way), in terms of climbing and acceleration – it makes me feel fitter than I am. On descents, both make me feel braver than I am. And I'd agree with Chucky that Alan at Riverside is great to deal with. The bearings on the ventana lasted fine – survived two years of wet and muddy lakes riding without complaint.

    eenie meenie minie moe…

    takisawa2
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    James, if your passing through this way your welcome to have a quick blast.

    jamesgarbett
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    Cheers Paul appreciate the offer

    dickie
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    Thanks for the mention chucky.
    Mine has a PUSH'ed RP23 & I ride with the propedal off.

    5 Spots are popular because they get more press.

    Alan Richardson told me that when What MTB had a El Ciclon, Guy didn't want to give it back!

    Coasting
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    Had both.Ventanna had a far better paint job and the finish was of a higher standard.Because the V is so stiff in the frame and with the quad bearing option,the bearings last for eva.There is more bob with the V but also less feedback thru the peddles and i thought it was a more supple system.The T peddled better but there was a level of kickback on some big hits.Both fantastic bikes and really this is splitting hairs.For me the V had just a little bit more of the boutique feel and look.

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