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		<title>Singletrack Forum &#187; Topic: A roadie groupset question</title>
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			<title>missingfrontallobe on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1121321</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>missingfrontallobe</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;As per Crazy Legs on page 1 of this thread, a lot of it comes down to the shape of the shifters - I like Campag, Shimano shifters feel too big for my hnads, and the campag lever set up works well for me, but in all honesty I&#38;#39;ve ridden campag for maybe 10 years and shimano road stuff for maybe 1 hour, so I&#38;#39;m not really helping here!
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			<title>Jimbo on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1121297</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;Madison have them in stock so you can get them. Maybe not at a discounted price though.&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And it was said discouts I was holding out for! With the arrival of 6700 and being available for £450ish, I was hoping for complete 6600 groupsets to get a lot cheaper. Sadly...
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			<title>yoda on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117917</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>yoda</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.za/images/products/microSHIFT-SB102W-Shift-Lever-R-White-Hood.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;shimano compatable, groupset, suitable for cross,(Roy Hunt&#38;#39;s using it,plus others)You could get your chosen bike,sell the groupset and swap to this and not lose any money!!&#60;br /&#62;
Equivalent microshift groupsets are way cheaper than Shimano!
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			<title>oldgit on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117604</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>oldgit</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Can&#38;#39;t see much evidence of Campag being used much by pro teams, and I think Campag have stopped colour coding official team shifters? which makes it harder to spot.
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			<title>RichPenny on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117543</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>RichPenny</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#39;ve got veloce on my roadie, but the only time I&#38;#39;ve ridden another road bike it had dura-ace. I didn&#38;#39;t like the moving brake lever/shift mechanism at all, so went for the campag build. Might be something you get used to though.
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			<title>oldgit on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117528</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>oldgit</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just had a read of Mark Webbs comments on Campag, over on cxmagazine. Sounds a little vague, but implies they won&#38;#39;t cover warranty if used off road. Could be just the States though.
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			<title>Dougal on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117455</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;And I meant to ask, don&#38;#39;t Campag void the warranty if you off road their kit?&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I would doubt it, seeing as the sponsor several pro CX teams.
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			<title>tonyg2003 on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117442</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>tonyg2003</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I have some ancient 8spd record ergos. Bombproof. Still extremely good action, but the least comfortable hoods ever!
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			<title>oldgit on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117425</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>oldgit</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The vids are quite usefull, though mine are some of the old ones I&#38;#39;m keeping alive.&#60;br /&#62;
I also don&#38;#39;t think all the Ergos are rebuildable, someone? implied that the cheaper ones were sealed.
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			<title>clubber on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117387</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>clubber</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;True about rebuilding Ergos&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just in case you didn&#38;#39;t know, there are very useful vids on youtube for this.
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			<title>oldgit on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question/page/2#post-1117385</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>oldgit</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;And I meant to ask, don&#38;#39;t Campag void the warranty if you off road their kit?
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			<title>clubber on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117381</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>clubber</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Campag on my CX bike. I really couldn&#38;#39;t care less what Ernesto said &#60;img src=&#34;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif&#34; title=&#34;:)&#34; class=&#34;bb_smilies&#34; alt=&#34;&#34;/&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>oldgit on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117375</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>oldgit</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;True about rebuilding Ergos, I posted a few weeks ago about my first total strip down and re build. Was successful as well.&#60;br /&#62;
By spares I really meant stuff like cassettes chains etc.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>Dougal on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117351</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Same applies to 10spd Campag chains. PITA the join.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Someone did make a quicklink for them, may have been KMC. Whoever it was, they stopped making them, so I bought a mini stock to carry in the back pocket.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;At home I have a Park Master Chain tool, so no real issues.
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			<title>tonyg2003 on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117343</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>tonyg2003</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Dougal - Same applies to 10spd Campag chains. PITA the join.
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			<title>myfatherwasawolf on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117338</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>myfatherwasawolf</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Campag and Shimano are both great in my opinion. I went for Centaur on my present bike, cos it looks nice. One gripe though - every now and then the shift levers behind the brake levers seem to jam, requiring a quick flick of the thumb shifter to release it (if that makes sense to anyone I&#38;#39;ll be very suprised). Don&#38;#39;t know if that&#38;#39;s a common problem (carbon ergopowers)?
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			<title>Dougal on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117306</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Instead I use the Ti-Ni KMC chains with a KMC link - very bling. The only non 11spd Campag chains I think.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Veloce is still 10speed, and old-new-stock 10speed of al varieties is still widely available.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Campag levers feel solid on bumpy hard stuff when you&#38;#39;re covering them as the main lever doesn&#38;#39;t move, Shimanos can feel a little unsafe in some situations. Which makes them seem ideal for cross, but I got mud in the thumb shift mechanism and they failed, so Shimano wins there.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Campag for &#38;#39;cross is just wrong, even Ernesto himself said so!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Meant to say - I&#38;#39;ve had really good warranty support from Campagnolo over the years, not that I&#38;#39;ve had to use it much.
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			<title>Richie_B on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117290</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Richie_B</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#39;ve used a Veloce groupset on my winter/commuter bike for the last four years. It gets infinitely more use and infinitely less maintenance than my race bike (maintenance amounts to scraping the crud off with a cloth and re-lubing when the chain stops bending).  To date it works flawlessly.  I&#38;#39;ve not had any problem getting replacement campag bits (Mercian in Derby seem to come through for you if your stuck) but so far these have amounted to replacement of crash damaged bits and bits I&#38;#39;ve managed to drop through the gaps in the shed floor when fettling my other bike.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#39;ve nothing against Shimano but its all down to taste.&#60;br /&#62;
One reviewer&#38;#39;s mechanical clunk is anothers reassuring click, it basically reflects the prejudices the reviewer brings to the bike.
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			<title>ChrisE on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-roadie-groupset-question#post-1117287</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ChrisE</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Shimanos can feel a little unsafe in some situations.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I got my first road bike at Christmas, been out about 5 or 6 times on it for 40/50K at a time and to be honest the whole bloody thing feels unsafe!!!!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;C
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			<title>Mister P on "A roadie groupset question"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Mister P</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;&#38;#39;course, can you buy the &#38;quot;old-yet-perfectly-good&#38;quot; Ultegra 6600 anywhere with 170mm, 53/39? Can you buggery &#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Madison have them in stock so you can get them.  Maybe not at a discounted price though.
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