What British mountain bike brand do you like?

Hope is a obvious one but I like the quality of the brand.
Also I always find myself on the Superstar website looking at ‘stuff’.

Bit of a Dialled fan boy had a lot of frames most where awesome but more recently loving what Bird are coming up with.

What about you?

I’m pretty loyal to Endura for shorts, gloves and jackets. The rest is based around what deals are available.

Well hope seem to constantly deliver solid and good stuff with great support, I’d buy more of their stuff if it ever broke or wore out more often.

Never been that bothered by superstar, most of the stuff isn’t actually british and just badged up generic stuff though isn’t it?

Hope for generally fine kit and good support, Cotic and Bird for nicely thought out designs at good prices. I have a few bits of nice Endura kit but always wary of variable sizing.

Wouldn’t touch Superstar with a bargepole given a) its just rebranded tat on the whole, b) too many reviews of stuff failing early, c) too many stories of poor customer support (see b) and of course d) previous crappy behaviour on this forum (yes I’ve got a long memory :))

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What previous crappy behavior is this?

I’ve not got a long memory.

+1 for Endura variable sizing. It’s good stuff but a large should be a large, not large one month and medium the next.

Hope is always good and CS is generally great. I love my Mega so NP would be on there. I’d say Bird too but I haven’t ridden it yet so I’ll reserve the right to add them later.

I think Customer Service along with product quality should be the 2 defining characteristics of a great company.

Neil was on here under a different login defending/promoting his products when they were getting a bit of a shoe-ing for poor quality. Hence permanent ban from the forum I think.

Hope is an easy one as they are a lesson in British manufacturing.

I used to be a fan of Orange, but recently far too many ideas haven’t stuck. The latest Five and Alpine do look like an improvement though.

I see Bird as a bit different as they don’t manufacture in this country (apart from wheelbuilding and assembly). Great guys and I love the product, but I don’t see it as a strong British brand yet.

I’ve had mixed experiences with Endura and don’t think of them as being particularly British. No doubting their popularity and reach though. I feel a bit more supportive of Polaris, Buffalo and Montane however.

USE/Exposure would have been right at the top if they’d managed to retain British production. I think in terms of Britishness, quality and customer loyalty they must still rank highly though.

The new breed of handbuilt bike manufacturers like Shand, Swarf, BTR are really interesting to me. Would feel like an investment.

I’m sure I’ll think of some more!

Are Pace still going? I always used to like their stuff. I’m a big fan of Hope, too.

Alpkit are a great example of a company treading the fine balance between British design, foreign manufacture and trying to bring manufacture into Britain when appropriate. They seem really good at judging the market and have great customer service.

Quite impressed with Empire from what I’ve seen. Their MX6 EVO looks good in the flesh but I haven’t ridden one yet.

Hope, obviously, for their customer service.

USE / Exposure for me, with Hope a very close second.

Hope – been buying their stuff for years.
USE/Exposure – From lightweight seatposts in the past to the lovely lights I have now. I like to support such a local Co too, I think their Rory went to school with my sister 🙂
Whyte Bought a G150 on a bit of a whim and it was a revelation.
Bird Nice guys I think, and their Zero frame was just what I wanted angles, cable routing, etc (if a little weighty)
Endura I like their stuff but then I usually buy in my LBS so try it on rather than go by the size label.

These may be less popular but Superstar and On-One I’m drawn to for buying cheap stuff cheap.

Pace I used to love and still have my RC200 but I don’t see them as the same company today. I didn’t like the sound of some of the tales of poor back up I’ve read on here so crossed the RC127 off my list when looking for a new frame.

Having started out in the 90s – Hope and Pace. Not that I’ve bought anything by Pace for a good 10 years. (Last was lube, I think)
Middleburn not been mentioned yet. My first bike had Middleburn cranks, and I found an “Oiler” in my toolbox yesterday 🙂

Thought of another one

Morvelo More an all round cycling brand but I recently got a couple of shirts and a pair of shorts and like them so far. Another local Co so I’d favour them provided the gear is good.

“USE/Exposure would have been right at the top if they’d managed to retain British production. I think in terms of Britishness, quality and customer loyalty they must still rank highly though.”

Do you have a source for this statement?

From the USE website

“Ultimate Sports Engineering (USE) was founded in 1990 and is to this day driven by the obsession of creating the ultimate in innovative sports products. Today Ultimate Sports Engineering encompasses design and production of: Cycling components (USE), Cycle lighting (Exposure Lights) and Marine Lighting (Exposure Marine). Bury, nestled in the heart of the South Downs National Park is the backdrop for this and we pride ourselves on production here.”

Hope stuff is excellent, no complaints here. I once had a wonky rear hub that was upgraded to a brand spanking new Pro II Evo at minimal cost, plus their brakes just work and continue working for years with a piddling amount of maintenance.

Pace…hmm…I bought a set of RC40s once, lovely forks when they worked. With better sealing and a travel adjust that worked when you wanted it and not when you didn’t, they’d have been class leading. I know that DT Swiss bought the fork production line and they’re now the very epitome of Swiss reliability, but I’d have liked to have seen Pace forks expand their range and develop their own products.

Bird? Not manufactured in the UK, but they will more than likely be receiving my custom next time round.

Cotic for me. Great bikes and down to earth.

Cotic mostly, I’ve had multiple episodes of ridiculously good customer service from them, all for a bike I didn’t even buy used in the first place. And 3 brilliant bikes, every major step in adult mountain biking I’ve done, I did on a Cotic and it’s no coincidence.

Hope are frustrating, it’s not entirely their fault, it’s the fanboys too… When their stuff breaks, they fix it, yeah? But it’s not good customer service, selling something you know will break then fixing it when it does! At best it’s a last minute save. If superstar did this stuff, there’d be octopuses everywhere but people love Hope for it. This ground me down a bit, I spat the dummy when they decided to try and charge me RRP for the “upgrade” parts to fix their not-fit-for-purpose 12mm rear hub.

I like Hope stuff, their hubs and headsets mostly, I do like their brakes but I’m too tight to spend the money on what’s IMO overly manufactured and bulky when Shimano make such brilliant brakes for a small fraction of the cost and don’t use horrible DOT fluid.

I love SuperStar stuff, I’ve used them for years and aside from some brake pads that failed more than 5 years ago (which they sorted very quickly) I’ve had nothing but good stuff and great service (but I do which their stuff wasn’t garish).

I don’t like Endura stuff much, it works well but looks drab compared to Sombrio, One Industries and stuff and it’s rare that a 36 year old can dress like a multi-coloured **** these days.

Orange does nothing for me, I don’t believe they innovate enough, their stuff looks agricultural and deep down they suffer from the same “if it aint broke” mentality which helped kill other British brands in the past.

Just Hope.

Hope fan boi here.
Plus middleburn ,endura & obviously orange,this being stw after all.
Also happy with kinesis too and I remember when karrimor made excellent mtb clothing…still have a few items in use.

Presently own an Orange a Genesis and an On One and love them all.
Other brands: Endura is good, but clothing sizing, along with Altura, has gone a bit “mainstream”, ie short and fat. Hope customer service is phenomenal.

I love the look of Travers bikes, and like Milk Bikes for their ingenuity.

Steven Shand is a master craftsman IMO, is he a “brand”?

But ultimately, I prefer German stuff. 🙂

Just to check what makes things British??? If you include superstar then you could add anyone with a warehouse in the UK.

Stooge & Whyte (bit of a fan boy)
Endura for clothing
Hope for components
Swarf, cotic & Shand, not owned them but follow them closely
Alp-kit for storage
I also like Orange for being simple and functional

Use to like Bird, but put off following a chat with Dave at the trailhead.

Just to check what makes things British???

The question was British Brand so I didn’t worry too much about where the stuff was made. A lot of the above have the product made overseas with varying degrees of design input.

Endura and don’t think of them as being particularly British

Not particularly British, really. A company that was founded by a Brit and has remained with a production facility in Britain for over 20 years.

AlexSimon – Exactly how do you define British ?

Re: Exposure

peteimpreza – Member
Do you have a source for this statement?

No – we just looked a few of their lights in the pub a couple of years back (after reading comments on here) and there were some Made in China ones.
After you posted, I looked at some image photos and there are definitely “Made in the UK” stamps visible on some of them.

So if they’ve brought it back to the uk, or if it was just a couple of models, then I take it back. Good stuff!

Quite partial to Singular myself 😉

Mike superstar are currently manufacturing their own chain rings, expander sprockets, bash gaurds and pedals in the UK. I’m sure they are looking to make more stuff here in the future.

Not particularly British, really. A company that was founded by a Brit and has remained with a production facility in Britain for over 20 years.

AlexSimon – Exactly how do you define British ?
It was my perception. Which I think is an important part of it.
I.e. When looking through the racks of clothing, I don’t currently think “I’m investing in British manufacturing” when looking at Endura or “that’s made for riding in the Peak District” like I do with some of the other brands I mention.
If you’d have asked me where they were from, I would have known they were European, but not sure on the country. I don’t really know where Gore are from either, but I like their kit.

I wasn’t giving anything other than my own observations. It was only because someone else above mentioned them, that I put that I’d had mixed results.

No love for Howies?

How about Genesis?
Admittedly, I’ve had mine for quite a while now, so they may have gone off the boil lately, but they do seem to have a good reputation.

Hardly ever see any out on the trails, though.

Mike superstar are currently manufacturing their own chain rings, expander sprockets, bash gaurds and pedals in the UK.

Wow certainly british then 🙂
The pedals used to be the same as 10 other ones and the rest. Good on them for starting to do something but still not a patch on most of the others and most of their kit is still rebadged generic stuff from overseas.

Whyte, Kinesis & Singular in bikes. Just get it right for me, having spent too long on an Americans idea of what all terrain is.

I like Howies clothing on and off bike, but they have been a bit erratic quality wise – hopefully that’s clearing up now.

In no particular order:

Hope. If something wears out and there’s a Hope equivalent part then that’s my first choice, it just works. Not a fanboi as such, I just appreciate good engineering.

Cotic. Got a Solaris. The only thing to add to that is that my wife got so jealous that she got a Soul.

Endura. Decent kit for reasonable prices

Alpkit. Obviously more on the bikepacking side of things but again decent, no nonsense kit for good prices.

Wildcat. Very niche but high quality.

Paramo. We live in Britain and need to deal with the weather.

I quite like Howies stuff. Great jeans that seem to last.
Morvelo for cycle tops and Endura shorts.

Recently discovered Gusset components. Demo Spitfire was decked out with it. Now I have my own Spitfire with Gusset saddle and bars. Couldn’t recommend them enough.

If we’re talking British brands that offer a top quality service with top quality customer service you can’t go wrong with TF Tuned and Loco Tuning. Used both, can’t fault either.

Also, I take the piss out of Orange for their pricing but they do make grand bikes. My 224 was pretty flawed but it didn’t matter because it was just always a blast to ride, I miss it, my Herb was a better and faster bike but it wasn’t half as much fun, or as simple to jump on and ride. And the Five 29 is pure genius. I’d have gone ****ing postal if I’d paid RRP for the 224, mind, considering the pissed welds and terrible paint.

(also, I love their fanboys very much… No other brand can generate chat like “Orange are so bombproof and reliable, and when it cracked I had no problem getting it welded up” or the legendary “I rode my five off a four foot drop, no other 5 inch bike could survive that, lolololol”)

I’ve got cycling stuff from Hope, Genesis, Whyte, Polaris, Montane, Rohan, Endura, Sealskin, On-One. I’ve had Orange and Pace stuff in the past, too. I know that most isn’t made here, but the fact that they are based in the UK is a reason to seek them out, IMO. I think that if more people put their money where their mouths are regarding ‘patriotism’ the country would be in a far better state. It really annoys me to see a house with an English and/or British flag ‘proudly’ flying and a drive full of German cars. Sorry, rant over.

Burgtec! Penthouse flats are by far my favourite pedals, super grippy and long lasting running on both my bikes along with their stem and bar and my hardtail.

+1 for Endura variable sizing. It’s good stuff but a large should be a large, not large one month and medium the next.

I reckon I had a special recently – a pair of Hummvees with one trouser leg in a small and the other in what I could only guess was a large (think MC Hammer). They went back.