Now onto the wheels on the gravel build. Going tubeless so can anyone recommend a do it all tyre (Barr commuting).
Apologies in advance if this has been do e to death…

Just bought some Specialised trigger pro 2bliss. They say 38c but reviews have em at 35c

Not sure on what you’re gonna be running em over but for hardpack / intermediate they look good. NOT a mud tyre or greasy grass tho. So not a cross tyre – and probably not great on loose gravel either but they suit what I want from em

I’ve not fitted em yet tho so that may change

I’ve been using Vittoria cross XG and XM pro tyres for around 2 years. They last around 1000 miles on the rear / 2000 front, roll well on the road and grip well on the gravel. They are pretty tough and work well tubeless even though they are not the tubeless variants.

Schwalbe g ones are great on everything but mud.

Cheers. Surface conditions would be mainly forest road, loose surface, some set patches but unlikely to be grass…

Mix n match tyres… Something like a g-one on the back and a wtb nano race up front? Have the fast rolling tyre on the back and some more grip up front if needed..

Clement Xplor MSO here – only a couple of hundred miles of mixed gravel / road / byways and they look brand new. Love them…

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Schwalbe g ones are great on everything but mud

This, and on mud they’re down right dangerous… which is a shame for me as I’ve just fitted a pair and have realised they’re going to be pretty much useless for the next few month 🙁

My WTB nano’s are at least as quick as my schwalbe g-ones were, and a lot more robust. Found the g-ones to be a bit lightweight…..

The new land cruisers are tough, fairly quick rolling, albeit heavy but are the go to tyre for the three peaks. They are £8 in halfords currently!

Not niche, not cool but work well.

And work tubeless too…

35c and tubeless I’d be looking at Clement, WTB or Ritchey.

I’m currently running a 40c Nano on the front and 35c Cross Boss rear (only cos a Nano won’t fit!). Working well so far…

Challenge Gravel Grinder in 38c. Best I’ve come across.

Panaracer Cinder X here, seem to suit me for a mix of surfaces including tarmac. Tried a couple of Conti tyres prior to these and didn’t get on so well with them.

Kenda Kommandos just now, i did find the last pair wore quickly , but were excellent

Slightly bigger 40c Marathon Cross on my skinny wheelset, they seem decent all-rounders.

I’ve yet to try 700 Landcruisers, but I’d love to try a set, they rolled so well despite their weight on my 26″ Pylon8.

Smart Sams are ~£9, Nano TCS are £21 and Nineline TCS are £13 at DFS.

There are new G-One variants, not sure if they have hit the shops yet…
http://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad.html

^ DFS means Planet X/on-one for anyone else who wants to avoid spending a morning trying to work it out.

G-ones are the same. They rebranded the s-one as the g-one speed . Both tyres are exactly the same as they were previously.

Mine will be with me tomorrow.

I’ve been running a Cross Boss up front and a G-One at the back for a mix of back lanes, easy bridleways and not very much grass. It’s quick, but copes with the odd soft patch okay in the same way that a similar mtb set-up would. Vis, the rear end moves about, but the front stays mostly planted. Which is fine with me. Both tubeless.

I also have a soft spot for Bontrager CX0s, though the TR version is a little skinny at 33.

Annoyingly the Nanos I bought are just too wide at the back to clear the chainstays on my XLS so might be selling cheap. Only wired ones.

Schwalbe g ones are great on everything but mud.

+1

And mine went tubless nice an easy wiv trackpump YMMV.

I’ve got the 35c Cross Boss on the back and a 40c On-one Gravel Road on the front.
Happy with the combo. I think despite the extra tread, the Cross Boss rolls as well (if not better) than the Gravel Road and provides more grip in softer stuff.

For fire road / gravel roads pretty much anything above would work well. The only one I’d suggest against is Clement XPlors unless you can get their new tubeless carcass as the non-tubeless is a nightmare to get / keep inflated. Good tyres if you can get them setup though!

@ n0b0dy0ftheg0at I’ve got 2 sets of Land Cruisers you can have for the postage 1 x 700 x 32 and 1 x 700 x 40. PM me. I’m fed up of tripping over them.

35c Cross Boss on the back, 40c Nano on the front. Again, can’t fit anything bigger than the Cross Boss on the back on my Whyte Saxon Cross! That said, the Cross Boss really is an excellent all rounder. The Nano up front gives a little more cushioning and grip in the dry at the expense of grip in the mud (it slides too easily there).

About the only thing I like about Specialised is their 2bliss ready CX tyres.
The Triggers were pretty good, but a bit sluggish.
Swapped to Roubaixs for the summer & they are worlds faster & have stood up to some full on mob trails without a single issue.
Jumped on some of the new Sawtooths in a 42 as soon as they came out last month. They give up very little speed on the road for such a big tyre, but certainly handle the off road even better.
They have all been a treat to set up tubeless.

Small Block 8s that came on my Arkose have been great. I can’t see any reason to change them.

I use Bontrager CX0 33C TLR CX tyres, here for example st :

http://www.pedalon.co.uk/acatalog/bontrager-cx0-tubeless-ready-cyclocross-tyre.html

Reasonably expensive at £36.99, especially compared with those Halfords ones suggested above at only £8 but possible comparing apples and oranges, I don’t know.

I run these Bontragers on ordinary rims converted to tubeless with Stans tape and they hook up perfectly with no faff and no leakage. I pump them up hard (50-60 psi) for pure road rides and they don’t buzz or hum at all, and don’t “feel” draggy despite their width compared to a proper, skinny and bald road tyre. STRAVA runs around a well-worn loop suggest they are barely any slower than roadie tyres I’ve done on a proper road bike for comparison. To be honest, they seem like magic! They surely MUST be a little slower than a road tyre and maybe I’m just sub-consciously putting in the extra effort to compensate?

Off-road I let a load of air out and my Cube Cross Race Pro deals with roots and the odd stone with a lot more forgiveness. The Bontragers are certainly not ploughed muddy field type tyres as they have no knobblies on the centre part of the tyre thus their road prowess I guess? The edges are knobby and they deal brilliantly with the Surrey Hills where I live. I’ve not had a single puncture or leakage and for that reason this has almost become my go-to bike.

Only time they’ve puncture was when I slit a 2-3cm gash in them on the North Downs side where it’s flinty. Those razor blade like stones didn’t give them a chance though I’m not sure any CX tyre would deal well with that?

Loamy, forestry trails and certainly gravelly tracks are what these tyres excel at. I can recommend!

I’ve been alternating tyres on my cx bike. For off road use I’ve found nothing better than the Specialized Tracer tyre – never a loss of traction, pretty aggressive for on road use. For more varied terrain I’ve found the 40c On-one gravel road b.s.c tyre, (http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/TYOOGRT1/on-one-gravel-road-bsc-type-1-folding-tyre) to be fast rolling on pavement/hardpack and provide sufficient grip in the loose stuff! I managed to get them set up tubeless – Super cheap too!

Brill guys, STW comes up trumps again. some serious time on google ahead of me

I have been using Conti Cross Speed 35’s for everything on gravel/touring bikes. Probably done a few thousand miles on a few pairs. I bought some Clement X’Plor’s after a thread on here but haven’t ever fitted them. The conti’s are pretty good in all conditions and fast enough on road that I don’t bother swopping them for touring anymore.

conti cyclo Xking. The folding version are pretty tough, I get >1000miles out of them, closer to 1500 if you stick em on the back once the main knobbles are worn and you put up with some slipping.
Have run them tubeless before but recently had a really good puncture free run with tubes – The council strimming the hawthorne on my commute last week put paid to that 🙄
IME wire versions of conti tyres are a bit shit, seem to puncture a lot.

Land cruisers are cheap and very puncture resistant but weigh a tonne and not fantastic grip, I’ve run em in winter where I mainly stick to hard pack/tarmac cycle paths.

WTB Nano 40c front, and WTB cross boss 35c rear but only because the Nano is too big for the back of my Escapade.

Mate has On One gravel roads which he rates.

Cheers all, opted for cross boss and winstanly are doing them for £22. Thanks for the help

Clement Xplor MSO here – only a couple of hundred miles of mixed gravel / road / byways and they look brand new.

Crikey, my rear one was toast after 250 miles Wales coast to coast. However, the grip off-road was sensational – I got up and down everything that mates with nanos failed to clear.

Challenge Gravel Grinder in 38c. Best I’ve come across.

@nipper99 Are you able to run the Challenge Gravel Grinder tyres tubeless? I see Winstanleys are selling the open version but not sure if you can run open tubulars tubeless.

Also run 40’s
Nano TCS up front and Maxxis Rambler at the back.

First ride yesterday on new Panaracer Gravel King SK 35mm tyres. Tubeless on new DT Swiss R24 Spline DB wheelset with 18mm internal rim width they started off at 35mm width (Vernier calipers) but over the next few hours stretched out to closer to 37mm; I’d read on a few US reviews that they stretch out a bit. Can’t recall exact pressures but around three bar.

Mightily impressed with all that got thrown at them on a 40km ride yesterday; mix of road, gravel, farm track, woodland singletrack, damp grass and some mud. Much of what I’ll be doing on the Sequoia will be a mix of this and they’ve got much more bite on the latter three surfaces than the Sawtooth tyres still on the Hayfield wheelset.