Well judging by the amount of tranny porn that's available

See, you're just setting yourself up there.

Probably more appropriate before though, eh? 😉

See, you're just setting yourself up there.

I only know about the availability of tranny porn 'cause it's the porn category after Spanking Big Mamas.

There are distinctions between gender dysphoria, 'trannies' and cross-dressers.
Rachel – am I correct in thinking gender dysphoria is genetically linked?

Rachel – am I correct in thinking gender dysphoria is genetically linked?

Ask loddrik…

loddrik, anything going on back through the family tree mate?

Big black chap at work went all the way (I assume). From behind you thought you were looking at someone who was born a woman. Great walk, short skirts and good legs, large breast implants. Only the face and hands gave it away. Oh, and being 6 foot 2.

Hey, I've gone home with worse looking.

Yes, teagirl, there are several very different types of people dumped into the category "tranny"

I hate quoting wikipedia but it is not far off in this case – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Scale – there's a thing called the Harry Benjamin Scale that sets out what these types are, although it is old and the types these days are seen as less connected rather than a progression from one to another.

Transsexualism is thought to be connected with the development of the foetus in week 7 or 8 – where we all start as female and then a hormone is released to change half of us to male. Occasionally it is released into the brain a long while before the rest of the foetus. Something like that anyway…

Rachel

Quite funny, there is a tranny that works at my local Asda!

It's true there is quite a bit of tranny porn on the net, but I only found it by mistake when I hit a typo whilst searching for granny porn

I must admit I was terrified of going back out on the bike this year. What people would say and all that.

In reality, it has been pretty good. I've even just come back from a week in Morzine where I had absolutely no issues at all. Even the lifties were amazing…

oh – and lol @ typo of granny porn…

Rachel

Quite funny, there is a tranny that works at my local Asda!

That's a bit cheap.

I would have thought they'd use a reasonably sophisticated PA system these days. 😐

Why this underlying assumption that sex or gender are binary attributes?

because it's easier – most people will never have to deal with the grey area so why should they have to worry about it?

Question for Ernie;

What if, right, you met and fell in love with a beautiful woman. Spent many years with her, chose to settle down and spend the rest of your life with her. Even got married. She was the loveliest person you'd ever met.

Then, one day, she hits you with the bombshell.

What you gonna do? Walk out on the person you were in love with, that you'd spent so much happy time with?

See, then it's surely down to that person, not some constructed myth going on in your head, or your continued insistence that you're heterosexual.

Would you walk out on the person you loved, over a 'technicality'? Deny yourself (and her) happiness? Spend the rest of your life bitter and angry and twisted?

Or just shrug yer shoulders, say 'ah well in't life strange', and just carry on being happy?

There's a tiny sliver of black at one end, and a tiny one of white at the other, everything else is muddled and grey in between. The people in the slivers are normally quite unpleasant.

Or what if she told you…"that kid ain't yours"…we've all been there. 😀

There's a tiny sliver of black at one end, and a tiny one of white at the other, everything else is muddled and grey in between. The people in the slivers are normally quite unpleasant.

Are you saying that black people are unpleasant?

Nice DD; nice.

Aren't you late for your BNP meeting?

Marvellous, eh? DD coming on here saying all Black people are evil, basically.

No need for that.
😉

**** orf yew lot 🙂

You know what I mean.

Elfinsafety – well I guess if she was a great shag, I might be prepared to overlook the fact that she was once had a pair of bollox. Although I find it hard to believe that an op can be quite that successful.

BTW Effin, why would you only entertain post-op trannies ….. what have you got against pre-op trannies ?

Sounds to me like you have prejudice/fear in your head……..you narrow-minded bigot 😐

BTW Effin, why would you only entertain post-op trannies

It's 'Elfin' you neanderthal. Did I say that I would? Or wouldn't? Can you see that anywhere? Can you? No, neither can I.

YOU'RE the bigot.

Did I say that I would? Or wouldn't? Can you see that anywhere? Can you? No, neither can I.

Yeah, you keep banging on about them looking like a woman in every way. You clearly have a problem with trannies who still look a bit like a geezer.

You narrow-minded bigot you.

As ever the bigoted STW massive come out after dark

You clearly have a problem with trannies who still look a bit like a geezer.

Where did I say that?

My own sexuality dictates that I am attracted to 'feminine' looking women. I don't have a particular 'type' as that's too limiting, but I suppose theres a spectrum of attractiveness, outside of which are people I don't find attractive. I suppose my own psyche and gender influence who falls inside or outside of that spectrum. This isn't limited to looks, but on a sexual level, I kind of know what I like. Now and then life throws up the odd surprise; women who I might not have considered attractive actually are. There's no point in having set values, as everyone's unique.

I do like a nice bottom however…

WGAF?

I do.

About what? Bottoms?

where's that bloke that keeps typing WGAF? to the thread!

You clearly have a problem with trannies who still look a bit like a geezer.

"Where did I say that?"

Well I'm glad you've confessed to not having a problem with women who look like blokes ……..good for you mate.

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I don't have a particular 'type' as that's too limiting

And you wouldn't want to turn down the opportunity of a shag.

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Now and then life throws up the odd surprise; women who I might not have considered attractive actually are

It's called being pissed.

Elfin, fair's fair, I was desperate, but you were actually attracted to her?

women that look a bit ginger. now that's a worrier. Gingers this way please, form a queue!

Nah, she was getting loads of Incap benefit when I first knew her. Drawing her dead grandmother's pension too. Happy days.

And you wouldn't want to turn down the opportunity of a shag.

Well, even I can't be too choosy these days. 🙁

It's called being pissed.

Bizarrely, my beer googles seem to work in reverse to other blokes'. Which has probably saved me from a fair bit of embarrassment and shame.

women generally are getting bigger feet; mine are size 9

As are mrs aracers

gave it away. Oh, and being 6 foot 2.

As is mrs aracer

Oh, and I'm fairly sure mrs aracer was originally a woman given there are 2 mini aracers.

Why this underlying assumption that sex or gender are binary attributes?

In some cultures (such as some Native American and African tribes) they've long had the notion of multiple genders. I think it's only as we become more progressive both in terms of society and science that we're beginning to understand that for some people, it's a bit more complex than that. Like this guy.

But hell, I get grief for being a woman that likes mountain biking, videogames, comics and metal – I've flat out been told that I'm not 'a normal woman'. Much like a chap at work had the mickey taken out of him because he loved knitting. If people are still mocked because their hobbies don't fit into people's predefined gender categories, I can't begin to imagine how transgender people are treated on a day to day basis. :/

Like yer style mrs toast. mess it all up and mash it all up, it'd make people more tolerant and interesting around here at least.

I stopped and looked in the window of The White Company in Bath today. I'd obviously lost the run of myself 🙂

I'm all man

People might be different to you.

+1

On a side note the wife used to work with a transexual in Sainsbury's and I felt really sorry for the her given the amount of abuse she regularly got off customers and some members of staff. She left in the end because of it.

Why TF should a Human Being have to endure shit like that? Can you imagine how upset that must make someone, having to put up with that every **** day? And not getting any support from others, because they're too **** weak and cowardly to stand up to the bullying.

That's not on. I find that upsetting.

This thread may have continued in a fortunately reasonably light-hearted manner, but stuff like that is a reminder of why people really need to think beyond their own little bubbles, and consider others.

Times like this I'm really glad i live in a big fecked up mad city like London. Opens your eyes and your mind.

lol @ big hands! i dunno why, but "big hands" makes me laugh!Big hands!

edit: elfin, life's a bitch. got an oggy?

Yes, I had a TS friend walk out of her job on Monday. She just couldn't deal with the trouble there any longer.

I'm so amazingly lucky I can't believe it: I work for a wonderful company who have been 100% supportive. We put a lot of effort into planning how we broke the news, though. It's all pretty freaky stuff for most people and I've come to understand that – not easy when you have been exposed to the idea of gender issues all your life.

Rachel.