A very disturbing story…
How on earth can people like this even exist in this world?

Expecting our first child in a few months, I find that even harder to read 😥

What is wrong with this world 🙁

thats **** up. 🙁

Expecting our first child in a few months

As a new father myself I am similarly upset – but jeez – it is one sick thing kidnapping a baby, but this one really stuns me.

The story, as it stands, does not actually provide evidence that the child belongs to the dead woman. Nor have the couple mentioned been convicted.

If it does all add up as the story suggests then it is a very sad reflection of one end of humanity.

A friend works in post-natal ICU at the local hospital and is often depressed about the prospects for newborns who have to be weaned off heroine from the very start of their tiny lives. No baby deserves that sort of start.

The woman is undoubtedly very very ill. Might be an idea to find out why bearing in mind its not the first case of its kind and I've got an empty Gel pack to bet that it won't be the last.

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Indeed, it would suggest that the person is not exactly functioning correctly, rather than a reflection on society.

A friend works in post-natal ICU at the local hospital and is often depressed about the prospects for newborns who have to be weaned off heroine from the very start of their tiny lives. No baby deserves that sort of start.

🙁

And the point of this thread is?

heard that on the radio this morning, pretty disturbing stuff.

Low? Disturbed? Insane? Is there a difference?

I've read some sick shit in my time but that hits a new level.

Low? Disturbed? Insane? Is there a difference?

Seriously?

molgrips – Member
Low? Disturbed? Insane? Is there a difference?

Tell me you are taking the piss!

Yes, seriously.

What's the difference between so pathalogically evil that you do this stuff, and being mentally ill? It comes down to the definition and origin of free will, doesn't it?

"And the point of this thread is?"

For people who want to discuss a topic to do just that…..very tricky one that.

What's the difference between so pathalogically evil that you do this stuff, and being mentally ill?

I thought it would be self evident, but I'll go with it, one suggests that the individual is in someway in control of their actions whereas the other suggests that they really aren't.

Low? Disturbed? Insane? Is there a difference?
Clearly not on planet molgrips.
"What's the difference between so pathologically evil that you do this stuff, and being mentally ill?”
Are you some sort of fundamentalist god botherer? Do you actually beleave that Evil (as in not good – by your standards) is the same as some who is mentally ill?

And the point of this thread is?

Coming from the man who started a 'bring back Rudeboy' thread. pfft.

And the point of this thread is?

And the point of any thread is?…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/8176348.stm

Blood…boiling…over….

Are you some sort of fundamentalist god botherer?

Lol.

I used the word evil as convenient shorthand, since it's in common use.

one suggests that the individual is in someway in control of their actions whereas the other suggests that they really aren't.

That's way simplistic. Is a schizophrenic who listens to the voices in control of his actions or not?

If you suddenly decide to become a serial killer, you are in control of your actions, but surely the impulse to kill frequently and randomly is a symptom of a mental illness?

Not getting good answers…

You know when they say

Keep your friends close but your enemies closer

? Well now isnt that time I guess.

deft – surely they have CCTV from the cinema?

Put them in the room with a couple of royal marines…

Double post type scenario! Soz

If you suddenly decide to become a serial killer, you are in control of your actions, but surely the impulse to kill frequently and randomly is a symptom of a mental illness?

Good grief!

Please tell me this is a troll….

Put them in the room with a couple of royal marines…

Now let's be sensible here…Para Reg surely

Troll or Idiot?

"If you suddenly decide to become a serial killer"

Its not a career choice.

Just as Paedophiles actually dont beleive they are doing wrong, someone with a severe mental illness will have vastly different conception of logic.

Fair point Hora, I should've said "the day you decide to act on your impulses"

The lack of proper answers on this thread tells me that you lot don't get my point. Apart from Hora 🙂

molgrips, I might look like everyone on this forum (apart from Jojo1 who is lush) 🙄 but I do think differently (dont know if thats good or bad)…

you lot don't get my point. Apart from Hora

Personally I wouldn't really shout about that….. 😯

Every being in the universe knows right from wrong.

Is there any difference between some-one who's pathologically* evil, and some-one who's mentally ill?

*given that pathology is the study of diseases?

Speshpaul is wudeboy.

samuri – Member

Every being in the universe knows right from wrong.

Unfortunatly not. Its one of the characteristics of personality disorder IIRC for one. Psychopaths don't either nor do many folk with sever metal illness.

Its a very hard to judge the line for sure – at what point does either mental illness or developmental abnormality mean they don't have the ability to judge right from wrong?

this is why we have the "diminished responsibility" defense in courts.

Anyone watch the news coverage of Minny the Munter's multiple marriages the other day? If you did and were unable to spot even from that briefest of glimpses that she was not all there, and definately not in control of herself, then you might consider getting some help along with her IMHO.

Minny the Munter's multiple marriages

Very good….

deft said;

Now let's be sensible here…Para Reg surely

If you want the teenage boys to be sexually assaulted then yes. 😉