[Closed] Tarp or Tent?

I'm intrigued as to what the tent is that has a 10g pole. Do tell 😕

I presumed he'd just bought some carbon rod?

My bivi is an army surplus one, weighs a ton but can fit my gear in it at my feet if it's raining, and is properly 'wake up in a pond' waterproof.

For comparison an alkaline AAA battery weighs 11.5g.

The main hoop on my Lasercomp is alloy because it has to bend and the two end poles are carbon and might be 5g each (they are 20Km away ATM so can't weigh them), then again they are only 400mm long or so.

Edit: Found the weights online - 11g and 460mm long

To work in a hooped bivy the pole would have to be bendable to a radius around 450mm and then straighten for packing.

Scotroutes that outdoor research bivvy looks just the job paired with an alpkit tarp, any recommendations on carbon poles for the tarp and is the bivvy big enough for a mat and a sleeping bag? That set up could be just what I'm after

It's a Polaris Event Lite Shelter - only available for a couple of years but similar in concept to the better known Sup Air, which was at one time the standard MM tent for those going ultralight.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040609191254/http://www.sleepmonsters.co.uk:80/gear_article_window.php?article_id=21

The poles are over 2m long in that - you don't straighten them for packing, you bend them into a circle. I keep the poles threaded in the tent and then just wrap the tent around the rolled up poles - will fit inside a 30L pack.

@fudge9202 Try Stuart at [url= http://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/shop/?product_cat=shelter ]Bearbones[/url]

Aye - for poles you want the Pole-a-bear.

I'll page Metalheart for his review of the OR Helium.

Edit; he's at work so it'll have to wait. 🙂

Cheers whitestone, and scotroutes looking forward to it, will check out the pole-a-bear

Fudge, OR bivi is reasonably roomy I get an Exped 7cm UL mat and a Rab Neutrino 300 sleeping and there's still some space.

I've not used it extensively (not tested it under real duress (or even rain). If I'm completely honest I bought after reading Greg Mays blog after his TDR last year. If it stands up to that I thought...it's a pretty small pack size and is my good weather lightweight option/choice.

Poles for the tarp? As per ScotRoutes BB Pole-a-bear carbon are good. I bought 2x 1m in he first instance but have subsequently picked up a 49" one for the SMD Lunar Solo so will take mismatched sizes now to raise the front for access (or possibly even just the SMD one...).

My photo from page 1 shows the set up (with a single BB 1m pole and a Rab Siltarp1 which is roughly same size as an alpkit rig3.5).

Now, if the secret mods will stop texting me.... 😉

Great metalheart cheers for the info

fudge, some more photos of OR/siltarp set up to be found here.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/77564901@N06/albums/72157681234574594

Metalheart those pics are awesome, great setup with the tarp and bivvy I think that will do me well with some carbon poles. A man after my own heart with the Shiraz!!!

Hehe, it was a great wee bivy.

Thought you might appreciate more pics 😀

Yes they were great gave me some inspiration, cheers.

Apologies for resurrecting this but after building this

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and obtaining some Bikepacking bags from Wildcat gear I’m getting excited to get out. I’ve decided on a tarp and bivvy set up with some carbon poles.

Now everything cost wise is mounting up so I’d like a recommendation for a warm sub £100 sleeping bag to see me through to autumn

Bump for the looking out at the rain crowd 😀

This thread cost me money!

Just had an Outdoor Research Helium Bivy arrive today. Not tried it yet, won't be for a few weeks

I've got a Hunka but want to do a few little adventures with my lad this year. He'll no doubt sleep in the Helium!  I'll have the Hunka... 😃

Measured weight on digital scales 505 grams.

Oh, I got it from a place on eBay to get 5% Quidco.

........ But the Bivy arrived with a code giving 10% off next order over £20.

So..... If anyone wants to order this Bivy, if you go via Quidco then enter this code (assuming the code can be used on eBay AND that Quidco track it) you could get 15% off... In theory.

Bringing it down from £161* to £137... In theory.

The code any help to anyone? 😏

* Available a bit cheaper on one companies website but after 5% off, it was almost identical cost and eBay gives me a layer of protection.

Tempted poopscoop, although I'm sure that code won't work on ebay.

What length does the pole fold down to?

One pole longer than the other by about a centimetre.

That longest one is 30cm. Weight is 55g for the poles.

The code for 10% should still work on their website.

I think the company is called Twistmoto? Will check later.

30cm is fine, thank you!   CBA with a tarp, so this looks a good upgrade from my army Goretex.  Half the weight and pack size really.    Got a Zephyros1 tent but that's too much for the odd night or two (but perfect when using commercial campsites as mentioned above)

Glad I went for the tent and not the Tarp Saturday night 🙂

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Well in the end went for a Wildcountry Zephyros 1 ep tent  with a free footprint , will see how I get on before possibly getting a tarp and a hunks xl. I acquired a pipedream 400 and an Exped DownMat to sleep on so should be cosy.

This

https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/p/wild-country-tents-zephyros-1-ep-tent-D1214001.html?colour=98

Just need a seatpack to get off