[Closed] So, what's Brant going to do at CRC?

I'd hope that someone like brant will be used for his bike designing skills rather than his big mouth but who knows...

I'd imagine there'll be a line of Brant designed and branded bikes that are good value, ride well, and have an overly complex 5 piece rear end...Oh, and are in stock more than occasionally

If I was in charge of CRC, that's what I'd be hoping for.

Designing a range of bikes and accessories branded Murphy-Richards

nickc - Member

...and have an overly complex 5 piece rear end.

Surely you'd rather a 7 piece rear end?

5 piece seat stays he means, not rear triangle.

There will be something with 8 pieces 😉

Killing his brand

Designing a range of bikes and accessories branded Murphy-Richards

LOL

more importantly what new arse are the sycophants going to puckering up to?

Figurehead of company leaves before a replacement is found?

Hmmmmmm....

Just to clarify... I'm not "going to Chain Reaction".

Is chain reaction coming to you?

Richards is to create a bike and accessories brand for mail-order retailer Chain Reaction Cycles.

Richards said:

"I'm spending the next couple of months either in my shed, or in Taiwan, working hard to get a lovely range of frames and components, for launch under a new brand name in early May. What I'm trying to achieve is that fast route to market, volume purchasing, great margins, all in key areas that the big brands aren't hitting.

"And if that fails, I've got a backup plan of going to sell odd hats and beef jerky."

Perhaps the back up plan has already come into force? Not clear on the odd hat thing but I heard about some sort of odd sock exchange that seemed interesting.

On-One pricing plus the benefits of bulk purchasing could mean some very very very good value frames.

I imgine that the recent changes to the p-x/on-one 'corporate structure' were a precursor to this and it's been on the cards for a while.

Richards is to create a bike and accessories brand for mail-order retailer Chain Reaction Cycles.

Richards said:

"I'm spending the next couple of months either in my shed, or in Taiwan, working hard to get a lovely range of frames and components, for launch under a new brand name in early May. What I'm trying to achieve is that fast route to market, volume purchasing, great margins, all in key areas that the big brands aren't hitting.

"And if that fails, I've got a backup plan of going to sell odd hats and beef jerky."

But why did he need to leave On-One to do that?

Reckon its going to be tough for On-One particularily as they'll now be in competition with the new CRC brand thing.

One thing that did impress me with On-One was that it did keep evolving the brand from SS to 29ers to hardcore hardtails to ti hardcore hardtails. They might find a replacement frame designer but its going to take a lot to find someone who can keep that momentum going in keeping the brand current IMO and the On-One range could look tried quickly.

I may be a little naive but it does come as some surprise to me that Brant wasn't actually "Mr. On-One". As he was very much the mouthpiece of the company and provider of much of the energy it'll be interesting to see what happens going forward. Likewise it will be *very* interesting to see what happens with his collaboration with CRC. Maybe I'll hold off relacing that frame just yet...

Figurehead of company leaves before a replacement is found?

Hmmmmmm....

There was a post on another thread asking if a rumour about Planet X being in trouble was correct. Brant categorically denied it. Hmmm?

KINGTUT - Member

Richards is to create a bike and accessories brand for mail-order retailer Chain Reaction Cycles.

Richards said:

"I'm spending the next couple of months either in my shed, or in Taiwan, working hard to get a lovely range of frames and components, for launch under a new brand name in early May. What I'm trying to achieve is that fast route to market, volume purchasing, great margins, all in key areas that the big brands aren't hitting.

"And if that fails, I've got a backup plan of going to sell odd hats and beef jerky."

But why did he need to leave On-One to do that?

MONEY?

From what i can see Brant is going it alone. Are we going to see Brant badged frames.

He will have the financial & distribution backing of CRC and also be able to supply the frames through the lbs network rather thn from his shed at present.

So Brant gets to control the design and manufacturing but gets to use the clout of CRC to bring down the costs and increase his supply chain. He will probably get more of the profits as well.

Sounds to me like Brant is lookig at the current market and thinking this is a more stable propersition than On-One. Cant blame him but it does make me think that On-One wont be able to compete, and i suspect Brant feels that otherwise he would have done a similar thing under the present On-One setup.

Make sense or a load of bollox?

So, if Brant has his 'own' brand, what's it going to be called?

Tempest Bikes/Cycles?

Could be worse.

Branticles

[i]Sounds to me like Brant is lookig at the current market and thinking this is a more stable propersition than On-One. Cant blame him but it does make me think that On-One wont be able to compete, and i suspect Brant feels that otherwise he would have done a similar thing under the present On-One setup.[/i]

Sounds about right.

The strength of US$ could well have a had a bearing on his decision

What ever the reason - good luck with the future

Bran-tastic

So the bikes will be branded 'Shedfire'?

..so should I buy an O-O ti frame, or are you going to do something cheaper..you did mention the possibility of cheaper eastern made ti-frames a while back

How far off the mark am i Brant

"brant richard's new venture in child labour shocker"

Mr Brant,

I've been patiently waiting for news on the beef jerky situation for longer than this lot and their sodding niche frames, please don't tell me I'm gonna have to wait for CRC to hit the skids before I can get any!!!

oh the humanity!!

always thought brant owned on-one, was he just working there?

Ah, what a sweet little child!

But why is she not at school?

Probbly got the poor little mite working out in the shed.

That's why On-One's are so cheap; child labour.

So are the Ti 456 days numbered?

[url] http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/article/brant-richards-to-launch-new-bike-brand-20242 [/url]

So 'Shedfire' it is then

cheap ali 456 anyone?

Based in Calderdale- marvellous. If you need a nervous tester I can ride em' down BluePig etc 😀

"If you need a nervous tester I can ride em' down BluePig etc"

or at least give an opinion on what they're like to push 😉

Hmmm spot on i think.

Nope, looks like the Ti 456 is coming from Lynskey when the exchange rate improves.
Airbourne in China are going to produce the Ti 456 for On One to sell at £799!

Pete

enough waffle what about the beef jerky situation!

[i]Mr Brant,

I've been patiently waiting for news on the beef jerky situation for longer than this lot and their sodding niche frames, please don't tell me I'm gonna have to wait for CRC to hit the skids before I can get any!!!

oh the humanity!![/i]

mrnutt: rumour has it (god aren't rumours fun..) that he will be trialling some prototype dried meat products at HTN1.5 this weekend

HTN1.5? Wassat?

I like Bluepig and the one coming down from something-pots next to the garages.

Lovely compact ride.

Big Pete - Member

Nope, looks like the Ti 456 is coming from Lynskey when the exchange rate improves.
Airbourne in China are going to produce the Ti 456 for On One to sell at £799!

Pete

It's Hang Lun, not Airborne...

And of course they're already making stuff for Van Nicholas....

Shedfire? Is that a joke? Terrible name imo.

HTN1.5 but I'm at afan!! a fiver to any brave soul that can secure me a bag of such fabled meaty goodness!!!

The press release suggests the brand name for the bikes hasn't been announced yet. I think Bikeradar have jumped the gun a bit (again) announcing that the bike brand will carry the same name as Brant's company.

Oh, and I prefer biltong to jerky. Anyone know a good supplier of a nice game biltong? Preferably made from UK meat?

I think Bikeradar have jumped the gun a bit (again)

yeah. as you say. "again".

Interesting move, I guess after nine years in the job a man's allowed to move on. I bought my Inbred frame when On-One was selling to shops and personally I prefer to actually be able to ride a bike before I buy it.

I have a funny feeling that On-One may not have much life left in it now, especially if Brant does target the same market with his new brand. But Planet X will still be there, they have a healthy road and CX product range after all.

Best of luck Brant!

On-one is dead long live Brant

is Bluepig a dried meat product?

Must be missing something here, cos I don't quite 'get' all the excitement.

Kelvin, for biltong I'd recomend these guys:

[url= http://www.cruga.com/about.html ]http://www.cruga.com/about.html[/url]

He's got a whole heap of work coming up to think of a completly new line in witty product names.

Of course, we could help

MrNutt; I can get you some Billtong type gear, if you want. Gonna cost you more than a fiver, though- it's well spensive!

I can send you the inner lining from some old shoes if you want for the cost of the postage only. You won't be able to tell the difference

Actually bluepig would be a good name for a frame!

Cheers, ghostdog, I'll give them a try and order a stick come pay day.

The Bluepig - available in any colour except blue

Cheers, ghostdog, I'll give them a try and order a stick come pay day.

I'm sure we can do it in the valley.

good call ghostdog!!

Is that a euphemism?

[i]Must be missing something here, cos I don't quite 'get' all the excitement. [/i]

It's more interest than excitement (although I'd bet Brant is plenty excited about the future): I'd guess most people on here have either (a) owned an On One or Planet X bike (b) ridden one (c) know someone who has or (d) received a grumpy sounding email from Brant about stock levels and your order or (e) all of the above.

Most people that have ridden On Ones, especially Inbreds, have a fondness for them and found them excellent, British-designed for British-riding, bike frames and are curious what their designer, a regular poster here is going to do next.

Does that help you out at all?

I'm still confused. I don't think we are getting the full story, but I doubt that we ever will.

What is so different from the current setup?
If Brant isn't working for Chain Reaction, is he going freelance? I'm not sure I'd give up a regular pay cheque in this financial climate.

Is he going to have as much freedom with the CRC?
Probably not, but if he's not working for them are they going to fund his frame and component designs?

Knowing Brant's acerbic wit, I wonder how long it will be before he pisses off someone at CRC?

I'd also like to know why the job advert for Brant's replacement were so quickly taken down from the On One website?

So many un-answered questions.

[b]Do I really care?[/b] Not really, but I hate being lied to and I hate hypocrites.

[b]I DEMAND THE TRUTH!! I'M NOT A NUMBER I'M A FREE MAN!!!!!!!![/b]

...you can't handle the truth!

I have a suspicion that the tax man may not have helped matters.

I'd also like to know why the job advert for Brant's replacement were so quickly taken down from the On One website?

I didn't even see that!

andrew - I have owned 2 on-ones and received emails from Brant, still don't quite get the this level of 'interest' but thanks for your take on it.

gtkid - Member
Must be missing something here, cos I don't quite 'get' all the excitement.

Seconded.

brant - Member

I'd also like to know why the job advert for Brant's replacement were so quickly taken down from the On One website?

I didn't even see that!

Ok so it was more of an announcement that Planet X were looking for a new designer rather than a specific job advert.

Brant - While you're following this thread, are the 29er Carbon Forks really not supplied with a 300mm steerer like the web site advertises?

piedi di formaggio - Member

...you can't handle the truth!

I'm a nosey bastard I can handle anything!!!!

are the 29er Carbon Forks really not supplied with a 300mm steerer like the web site advertises?

I think that might have been the conclusion I reached towards the end of last week. Yes.

Hmmmmm ideas for Shedfire?

We have the Shedfire Bluepig and the Shedfire Titus (named after Titus Salt).

All modelled by 18yr old nubile girls in tiny bikinis

Shedfire Titus

Can you have a model name the same as another make?

Sounds like On-One will be left out in the snowy wilderness.

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Is my MK1 tinbred now a retro classic, and will I have to start saving for something new in the near future? How long will it take to get the new Shedfires into production?

[i]Brant has already started on some of his new designs and is taking inspiration from the technology of WWI. We have managed to get hold of a spy shot of his new adjustable dropouts on what we believe will be called the 'Sommester'. This is a fixed gear bike with a revolutionary new 'tracked wheel' arrangement. Brant could not be reached to confirm or deny this new development as he is believed to be hiding in a trench somewhere North of Todmorden'[/i]
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