Small reliable car

Bought a Fiesta yesterday. 1.ol Ecoboost that has had the timing belt done.

Right colour, right spec, a bit newer and therefore more expensive... but Hey-Ho!

Nice little car. Drives well. Feels solid. Cheap to tax and insure.

Very nice,

Cheap insurance until one of the kids passes their test. 🙁

Hyundai I20 - we've run one for 10 years with no reliability issues. They even use them in WRC - albeit a bit done up!

In a similar vein, I am potentially looking at a 2015 1.4 (1.3 really) Jazz with 51k miles. For kids to learn in then insure themselves later. Will check insurance costs, but it's a naturally aspirated car with lowish power. Assuming with the fancy folding rear seats a bike or 2 goes in ok? Any folk on here have one and know of issues that I need to look out for? Do folk fit catalytic convertor guards to these?

Cheap insurance until one of the kids passes their test. ?

It gets cheaper after they pass their test: you’ve done your duty in facilitating them in learning to drive for when they can afford it and you take them off your insurance.

Going to start following this conversation and add a requirement.

Bike transport solutions for these small cars.

We will soon have to go through the "2nd car for child to learn to drive and us use at same time" drama and I reckon "us" will be "me" if I want to go riding anywhere.  I think ideally a boot mounted rack is easiest option?  A lot of these smaller cars seem to not go with boot mounted racks, seen a few places say you can't on things like an Aygo due to the boot hatch being glass.  So other than folding seats and throwing inside what's the best compromises of small yet bike friendly.

It gets cheaper after they pass their test: you’ve done your duty in facilitating them in learning to drive for when they can afford it and you take them off your insurance.

Oh how I wish!

Well researching the Jazz specifically gives this for nose weights:

All Honda Jazz 2002-2008 models have a nose weight up to 70kg.

All Honda Jazz 2008-2015 models have a nose weight of 70kg up to 80kg.

All Honda Jazz 2015 onwards models have a nose weight of 70kg up to 95kg.

So a tow bar bike carrier may be 18-20kg or so for a 2 bike carrier, + 2no. 15kg bikes, will be fine on any year Jazz by the looks of it.

According to the small car groups on Facebook. The vag offering is prone to premature rust much quicker than the other offerings in the class …. And they ain’t even been out that long.

Seen a couple recently with rust in the same area - all around the filler cap and rear arch. Not just a little scab but loads of the stuff...

We will soon have to go through the “2nd car for child to learn to drive and us use at same time” drama and I reckon “us” will be “me” if I want to go riding anywhere.  I think ideally a boot mounted rack is easiest option?  A lot of these smaller cars seem to not go with boot mounted racks, seen a few places say you can’t on things like an Aygo due to the boot hatch being glass.  So other than folding seats and throwing inside what’s the best compromises of small yet bike friendly.

i have a 108 with the glass hatch - same car as aygo .

i use a rockbros  sea sucker copy on the roof for 2 bikes.

A lot of these smaller cars seem to not go with boot mounted racks, seen a few places say you can’t on things like an Aygo due to the boot hatch being glass.

That’s something I hadn’t considered, it was a problem with my Puma because the entire top of the hatch was glass, so I went with a roof-mount. It absolutely screwed the fuel consumption - not that it was stellar in the first place, I think it dropped from 33 to 25mpg! 8-(

Well I can confirm I still get 50mpg going up and down deeside. I mean a slight drop from the usual 60 ..... But I'll live.

I guess it's more palatable when it's not trash  to begin with.

PS It's more expensive after they pass the test for that first year. Jumped £400 after passing, then came back down after a year post passing. Cheap Aygo.