Needs some t.l.c

think i could get away with swapping my 100mm durin race for some 120mm front forks on this?

it's been said before, but that head angle just looks wrong? Maybe it's just the photo, but looks seriously steep?

maybe they could put some longer forks on it and that would slacken it off a bit? 😉

previous pic with my fox forks on, does it look more "right" then? be unusual for independant fabrication to get something wrong in terms of fundemental wouldnt it?

still looks steep, but seems better… aren't IF all custom jobbies? so the headangle would be specified by the purchaser?

Independent Fabrication's "standard" angles (click here) are 71.5 degree head angle and 72 degree seat angle. "Industry standard" angles (on an XC hardtail) would be 71 degree head angle and 73 degree seat angle.

What this means is that by default Indy Fab builds with a steep head angle and a slack seat angle which gives a unique and ride (they ride great).

That said as psychle said they're all custom so you can have whatever you want. My steel Indy Fab has a 73 degree seat angle and a 69.5 degree head angle because that's what I asked for.

i had it custom made yes, but measurements and riding style and type etc given to IF and they work the rest out, see what you mean about being a bit on the steep side, i know it was tight to get me standover building around 100mm fork that i wanted, would this contribute to the angle requirement, and if i was to fit a 120mm, wouldnt this slacken the feel off somewhat?
will have to drop joe a note to ask if frame lifetime warrenty etc still ok around a 120mm, was more looking for an indication on what it might do to the ride really?

shortbaldone – I wouldn't worry about the head angle being "too" steep. It's currently fashionable to ride long travel (say forks 120mm and over) hardtails with slack head angles but there's a lot to be said for shorter forks and a steeper head angle – a more involving ride, shorter wheelbase making the bike more flickable etc.

The Indy Fab geometry moves your weight back on the bike by having a slack (ish) seat angle so compensates by steepening the head angle slightly.

I think that Joe has left but I'm sure that someone there would be able to tell you if a 120mm fork was alright if that's the way you want to go.

as long as you're happy with the ride, it's all that matters 🙂 a slightly longer fork would slacken it off a little wouldn't it? but as you say, worth checking the warranty first!

Re. the first pic vs the second, it could be that the reverse arch of the Magura is creating a bit of an optical illusion, it certainly looks different to the 2nd pic anyway.

I actually have a 2nd hand IF Ti deluxe (ie. not custom to me!) that I'll be putting a 130mm fork on, hopefully it suits it! Once it's built I'll post pics to this thread of course 🙂

Having a longer fork does slacken the head angle but it also slackens the seat angle by the same amount (approximately 1 degree for each inch of extra fork travel) and a longer fork raises the bottom bracket height…

angles / dangles / all relative to one persons preference and trails.

Lovely. Just lovely, my mid 90's dreams realised.

I've got a 71 deg head and 71.5 degree seat angle. Works fine for me.

Hey, I can enter this thread now 🙂

Read the title.

It says "loveliness" !!!!

😉

mines lovely

psychle – is that the one that you or someone else put the ebay link for on here the other day?

if so, nice work on picking it up!

awesome bike, certainly not conventional in style but a classic and gorgeous as well! amazing condition, top work!

yep, that's the one 🙂 really happy I saw that post re. the ebay link (my wife isn't so pleased, but she understands, kind of 😆 )

here's mine, anyway – double titanium!

Like the Merlin Flatboy. I've always wondered which bits of fords are titanium. Is it the badge?

cheers! no part of the focus is actually titanium, least of all the badge!

it's the name for one of the finish package options, i can only assume they chose it because it sounds strong and powerful, or some other marketing nonsense!

My new toy. Taken out on its first ride earlier this afternoon. Goes very well 😀

want = mick's Sabbath and that Dialled Bikes bent top tube one. Both tidy.

Pipedream Sirius Ti

have another pic 🙂 (yes, i know the steerer still hasn't been trimmed…)

Artistic shot, I think you'll agree. Must remember to stop somewhere scenic with a camera some time.

I know the oven needs a bit of a clean, before someone says anything. It was the only place in the house I could get far enough back to get it all in. Yep, hoses too long too.

Oooooh, it's nice to see another Ocoee 🙂 I love mine and hope you do too!

Yeh, I love it. Ours would look like parent and child side by side. Mines a custom xl, which is why it looks like it's got 24 inch wheels.

Yes! I definitely thought it looked on the large side!!

Am having so much fun on mine. The pickup when descending is incredible but she always holds the line well. My best-ever bike for sure 8)

Are you running yours ss? If so, how do you find it?

What I can't get over is what an alrounder it is for something that is essentially a lightweight race bike. Just as much confidence descending as my old stumpy fsr, but climbs like nothing I've ever ridden. It's great as a singlespeed, and I'd be really tempted to keep it that way if I could justify another bike for racing. I can't think of anything I would ever want to replace it with. I'm surprised i've never seen one reviewed in this country – particularly now they've made the cheaper Pigsah with the same geometry.