How the mighty have fallen when loosing at home to wales narrowly is seen as positive

Au contrare. When a hugely hyped and vaunted team, favourites by a country mile, buoyant from getting to a RCW semi final cannot decisively beat a brand new, never played together team, some who have never even started an international game becomes cause for pics of players laughing then something’s wrong. should have been a cake walk. Were Wales exposed? The france game will be the teller. Beat France, then you can gloat but until then there’s no justification.

Truly the village idiot!

OOI (only) did Walsh call advantage over? That was my only gripe at the time as I didn’t hear it.

ahhh remeber when the welsh team couldn’y make it out of the team hotel without having a scrap – it’s taken them 20yrs to get to this stage, let them enjoy it…………….still not won a world cup have they? 😉

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Wrecker you miss the point which is that wales are not that good. How many players were strating their first international? Owens and Parling? Doesnt that mean both teams were brand new never played together. Christ the two welsh wings havent played more than 40 times for their regions between them.
Wales had a very young team out, younger than the england team and beat them on their own patch.

C’mon guys ease up. If we are honest both England and Wales have rode their luck for their wins. And that is what good sides have to do to win. But this fact is what makes the 6N fun to watch at the moment. Ok, not if your Scottish of course 😉

I’d argue that there was more skill than luck in the Williams try, and more luck than skill in ChargeDown Charlie’s tries.

It was an ok match to watch but defences were very much on top.

Partly because there was very little quick ball from v slow rucks and both teams seeming to have forgotten to have a plan b if bashing with the centres didn’t work.

Farrell’s chip and chase was 1 example of how to try and get behind the defence, however I loved the North tackle straight after the chip.

I am worried the French will show us how to do just that kind of thing this avo.

CFH I meant overall not the specifics of the tries. Wales took that try extremely well.

England’s players will have felt pretty miserable back in their changing room, and all the people in the world telling them how well they played won’t alter their sense of having lost a match they should have won. In my view England lost this Test match more than Wales won it but having said that, I congratulate the Welsh on winning the Triple Crown and keeping themselves in the hunt for a third Grand Slam in seven years.

thats two games teams wales have beat without winning!!!

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I’d argue that there was more skill than luck in the Williams try, and more luck than skill in ChargeDown Charlie’s tries.

Really? Its been 15 years since I play in the county leagues, and even I know you don’t go into a ruck / maul with the ball tucked under your elbow sticking out of the side like Laws did, but firmly tucked in your gut until one of your players rips it back out of harms way.

That, no Full back or S /Half in place for cover as we were on the back foot allowed that try in. Poor play England IMO.

Agree with the Catflap comments though, although there’s tiny argument that says the player had to be there in the first place…..

So – anyone giving Scotland a chance?

Having entered this six nations on a wave of optimism after edinburghs great results in the HC I have now swung into a pit of darkest despair on the back of inept selection and performance so far in the 6N. Anyone got any optimism for me or do I have to rely on my welsh granny for a ray of sunshine?

🙁

I’ll be rooting for them Uncle Jeremy
if they can sort out their discipline they might do ok – hope for a tight closed game and a belligerent ref on their side, and a vocal Murrayfield crowd singing them on…

Wrecker you miss the point which is that wales are not that good

I’m not sure we were being told this message before the match – quite the contrary actually. Most Welsh rugby supporters could quite easily have been mistaken for English football supporters for the past week or so.

Like you would know in Adelaide 🙄

Scott Williams took his try very well, great pace and good execution.

Oh christ zokes has arrived to tell me i’m racist and shouldnt be a teacher.

TJ scotland have a chance because your front five is strong. Its a slim chance though.

Sorry, A_A, your charming temperament seems to have let you down again.

Like you would know in Adelaide

Y’know, there’s this thing called the internet these days – lets you know what’s happening all over the world. You can even read British websites, and there’s this thing called Facebook too 🙄

Now now children!

Show me these sights where the Welsh have been acting like england football supporters, go on I dare you I double dare you. Put some links up to prove your statement.

Oi

Behave!

I fancy Scotland to win today, they are far better than their results so far, and have not had any luck yet.
Then again, I thought England would win today, but they did play well. So did Wales too, and Ireland.

Wales experience showed. They now know how to play with 14, and when its worth taking a yellow. Very proffesional victory. They’ll need to improve to beat the French, but home advantage should help.

Farrell looked good and didn’t deserve to lose. England FH for a long time to come, and a good shout for the Lions squad. 😉
Good to see Sexton back on form too. 🙂

TJ whats its got to do with you, just leave it get sorted out.

loum…. I stand corrected on Farrel!!

So todays team:

Kearney
Bowe
Tuilagi
Scott Williams
North
Farrel
Phillips
8 erm…..i’d still pick O’Brian
Warburton
Lydiate/Ferris
O’Connel
ANO……. No idea who tbh
Jones
Token Scot
Gethin

France off day to day,scotland by 5 points,hopefully 🙂

Can’t argue with you there a-a,
Be good if Ford, Gray and Denton put in a winning shift today, and fill those gap positions.
And Halfpenny proved you right yesterday, top quality performance.
Overall, a great weekend’s rugby. Really enjoyable.

Phillips did my head in yesterday, I personally wouldn’t pick him as a Lion 9, sometimes he’s magical, sometimes he’s lost. Only thing that might get him the 9 shirt is the lack of competition there.

Too slow and tries to do too much.

Has anyone mentioned the amazing tackle Warburton put on Tuilagi. Why did Farrel run straight into North? Took that hit very well.

Why is Strettle bleating that he thinks it was a try, what is happening to rugby players these days?

Right, on to today.

I’ll take Scotland by a single score.

Yep, seriously.

anagallis_arvensis – Member
Wrecker you miss the point which is that wales are not that good. How many players were strating their first international? Owens and Parling? Doesnt that mean both teams were brand new never played together. Christ the two welsh wings havent played more than 40 times for their regions between them.
Wales had a very young team out, younger than the england team and beat them on their own patch.

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I seem to remember that during the RWC, this team was hyped as the next big thing. Morgan, dickson, parling all got their first full caps yesterday. Farrell had never started at 10, Manu and barrett had never played in the centre together before. The welsh team are narrowly younger than the English team, there’s only a few days in it and most have played in a RWC. Quite of few of the England team havent even played in a 6n before
So the team which reached the semi final of the RWC couldn’t outplay an inexperienced box-fresh England team. I still think that if those substitutions hadn’t been made, Wales wouldn’t have won but what ifs are ultimately pointless. Enjoy the victory, getting a result at tickers has taken long enough.
You may think this is daft but I would put money on England taking the win next year even now.

meddle,
Reddan played really well when he came on, links well with Sexton too, and is a different sort of SH. Good service, like Dickson.
Phillips, on his day, would be absolutely horrible to play against and can be a game winner. Have to admit, he didn’t help Priestland out too much yesterday, resulting in one of his lesser performances.
I’m sure Farrell would have been happier with his SH service, Dickson was pretty good with his passing.
When it comes to the Lions, I think defense against Genia will be most important. He’s their best player. If we achieve parity at SH, cancelling him out, I’d be happy. Then beat them elsewhere on the pitch. Whatever else, phillips defends like another back row.

Strettle is Cueto Mark II

1/2p made errors running it back when he should have kicked it but he’s a hard little **** who bouces up from huge hits and runs off again. At one point yesterday after croft tried to decapitate him i thought he was going to adjust his hat again just for comedy value!!!
Phillips always gets blamed for Wales not getting quick ball, none of which is his fault. England didnt let wales over the advantage line and so the ball was slow. Slow shit ball makes any scrum half look shPhillips is the best nine in the northen hemisphere by a country mile.

Phillips is the best nine in the northen hemisphere by a country mile.

Nope. It depends on how you want to play but his passing is not great nor is speed.

He might be the best but that is very subjective – but by a country mile? No way

+1 on that wrecker
if all the hype was to believed, wales should have walked that – yet didn’t

Warburton definitely deserved motm though – excellent performance

Re Spikey and slow ball, how many times was the England SH pinged for being of side at the scrum? And yet, no card….

Wrecker…. Ten pounds to the charity of our choice on it now?