[Closed] PSA : Garmin 800 Performance Bundle £210 on Amazon

Thats cheap!!! Ordered )

Thanks

does seem cheap, anybody know how much OS maps are for these?

does seem cheap, anybody know how much OS maps are for these?

Officially, the opposite of cheap 😉

I paided £25 for the Maps )))

1:50k maps (garmin ones) are £118 on amazon

where can I get them cheaper then, as most people say the base map is not very good

Same price with Wiggle -

[url= http://www.wiggle.co.uk/garmin-noh-edge-800-gps-performance-bundle/ ]http://www.wiggle.co.uk/garmin-noh-edge-800-gps-performance-bundle/
[/url]Wiggle
Probably more in the way of quidco/topcashback/British cycling cashback discounts to be had there as well.

^ Actually, that price is for a "NOH" one, which means newly overhauled, which means it's been returned. Still guaranteed though.

Bargain tastic, just what I was after...ordered.
Only going to use this for road use so don't need really detailed maps which is handy. Added bargain of getting the speed/cadence sensor and heart monitor included as I was looking at the 800 unit only last week at 226.

dammit, just bought a 500 in the lightning deal (as a pressie) but this is a lot of extra kit and capability for the cash (the premium HRM is £40 and the cadence sensor £25 on their own). Hmmmm.

1:50k maps (garmin ones) are £118 on amazon

where can I get them cheaper then, as most people say the base map is not very good

their are "genuine" Garmin UK OS maps selling on ebay etc on micro SD cards for suspiciously little, and www.talkytoaster.com and openmtbmap.org etc have cheap or free open-source variations.

Really tempted to get one of those as I've missed out on the Garmin 30% off code from a few days ago. I wanted to get an Edge Touring since I have no use for the HRM strap and cadence sensor. Just want a unit that I could use to follow a plotted route with good battery life. I could still pick up the Touring model for about the same money, but it doesn't have a barometric altimeter. Maybe I could get this one and eBay the HR strap and cadence sensor. Hmm.

Merry Christmas to me! Cheers OP 🙂

but it doesn't have a barometric altimeter

what is the Edge Touring based on? The Edge 500 does have a barometric altimeter, I thought the touring was a spin-off of this (though no Garmin expert).

Crashtestmonkey: the Touring is based on the Edge 800, but official specs list the Touring Plus (£249) as having a barometric altimeter, while the regular Touring (£199) doesn't. You can always use the altititude correction feature on Garmin Connect if your unit doesn't have a barometric altimeter.

Nice one OP. I've been after a new Garmin for a while, this seems the best offer so far (and there have been quite a few recently!)

well I've bought one, so thats 2 Garmins on route from Amazon, not decided what to do with them both 😯 🙂

Send back the one you don't want.

it's more a case of being presents for X, Y, or me 😉

Purchased, cheers.

[url= http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_844071_langId_-1_categoryId_165741 ]£279 with maps from Halfords[/url] I presume you can knock off 10% british cycling discount (they had a 10% discount xmas and boxing day anyhow) then a few percent top cashback and it's not looking too bad

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dammit, just bought a 500 in the lightning deal (as a pressie) but this is a lot of extra kit and capability for the cash (the premium HRM is £40 and the cadence sensor £25 on their own). Hmmmm.

What was the lightning deal price. My wife mentioned it but I'd already missed the deal so I'd be interested in buying the the 500 if you wanted to recoup the cost towards your 800.

Let me know.

£279 with maps from Halfords I presume you can knock off 10% british cycling discount (they had a 10% discount xmas and boxing day anyhow) then a few percent top cashback and it's not looking too bad

youre paying more for less (no HRM or cadence monitors, cost about £70 combined) but get overpriced mapping thrown in.

Bobmac thanks for the offer, FYI it was £89, but I have allocated them both as presents!

Thanks for posting this OP. It looks like a variety of maps are available on talkytoaster so what are people's recommendations for both on and offroad mapping. Perhaps the base map is good enough for on road so just a separate map required for offroad ?.

youre paying more for less (no HRM or cadence monitors, cost about £70 combined) but get overpriced mapping thrown in.

Those of us who have previous Garmin GPS may well already have heart and cadence sensors. I had a look at open street map and within a couple of miles of my home I could see a number of missing public footpaths so I'm willing to pay a little more for more OS mapping. I think they are both good deals and suit different people.

crashtestmonkey - No problem

Thanks op.. been after one for a while 🙂

I think they are both good deals and suit different people.

to be fair Halfords "extra 10%" sales are pretty regular and if you can stack it with something like BC discount its a hefty price reduction. I bought this one as having originally bought an Edge 500 for £89 as a gift, I figured out if the recipient ended up wanting cadence and HRM they're getting a lot more for my 🙂 money by getting the 800 bundle. The Edge 500 will go to someone else as a gift, so £300 spent on garmins and nothing for me....bloody PSA threads cost me a fortune...(the recipient uses STW but has been banned from coming on here til her birthday!).

Before I send this back to Amazon, is anyone else missing the magnate for the pedal/cadence sensor? And out of interest would a magnate from a cateye unit work?

And out of interest would a magnate from a cateye unit work?

The magnet in my pack was in a separate placcy bag to the actual sensor.

Anyone ordered one of the dodgy map packs from iOffer? Looks like they've done the difficult job of unlocking the normal maps.

(And, Ordnance Survey, if you charged a reasonable price for your product (considering it's about £50 in a different bundle), people wouldn't be considering other options or going straight to the OSM alternative. Which, ironically, uses your data anyway.)

Always wanted one of these so took the plunge. Ta OP!

being the cheapskate that I am (spending £200 on GPS!)

I have just downloaded the free OSM maps using [url= http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/05/download-garmin-705800810.html ]this great website[/url]

I've started playing around with Garmin Basecamp.

Does anyone know how to use/'mount' OSM maps in Basecamp for OSX/MAC?
So I can start plotting some rides?
Seems to be a bit of a fiddle unless you have the actual Garmin unit connected....

Help much appreciated.

can't you just plot them on the garmin connect website and upload them from there? What's the advantage of using basecamp?

Many thanks to the OP, mine arrived today.

[quote=ackie ]
Does anyone know how to use/'mount' OSM maps in Basecamp for OSX/MAC?
So I can start plotting some rides?
Seems to be a bit of a fiddle unless you have the actual Garmin unit connected....
If it works anything like the PC/Win7 version of Basecamp then the simplest method is to install a copy of the maps on a USB memory stick (or other removable drive/media) and pop that in your Mac. Basecamp just assumes that it's on your Garmin and will work with it just fine.

install a copy of the maps on a USB memory stick

What's the advantage of using basecamp?

good point what is the advantage?

If your map is in the garmin and its usb'd to the PC, basecamp will pick up the maps. Basecamp is rubbish tho. Ridewithgps is much better.

FWIW, I use Basecamp all the time..... as a permanent record of where I've been.

Thanks allthepies and anyone else who answered. I've been very short sited - spotted the wheel magnate but didn't click until I finally opened the bag that the two magnates were stuck together.

I've been playing around with various free Open Street Map data files and applications today. I can now create OS "style" vector maps for the Garmin, contours included and routable too including offroad trails 🙂

How do you guys get these free maps onto your garmins? I got an 810 for Christmas but a week before chrimbo our laptop broke down. So I'm stuck atm! (whilst laptops being fixed)
The 810 is just the base model with no added maps?
Help!!!

Bikemanspen: read this http://talkytoaster.info/ukmaps.htm

download onto non-broken laptop, transfer from laptop onto micro SD card, put micro SD card in unit, choose downloaded map in map menu. Done.

Ok so I have to put the maps onto a micro sd card (not via wire) before they show up on my 810?
If so I'll need a micro sd! Is it worth buying one off eBay with the maps already on?
Sorry for the all the questions,I'm not great with tech...

Get proper OS Garmin maps from ioffer for £20

http://www.ioffer.com/i/garmin-discoverer-the-norfolk-broads-1-25k-on-micro-sd-563341781

This seller has all the uk for £23 at 1:50k. Arrives sealed in a Garmin packet. Plug & play. 🙂

Yeah it's looks good I'm looking at the gb discover for £21 1.50k would that be suitable for my roadbike around the uk?

Hmmm, £200 from Garmin, £20 from ioffer. Wonder what the catch is....?

They are obviously counterfeit?

According to talk toaster guy he has put his 'look n feel' 1:50,000 maps behind a pay wall as they are appearing on ebay as 'genuine' garmin discover maps - would hazard a guess that's what these ones are.

I've played with his free maps (navigable and with contours) and on the little garmin screen it's not doing much for me - just very messy with too much clutter. I might go back to the standard garmin maps on the road and think again for off road.

Have to say, slightly underwhelmed by the 810 at the moment....

Have you looked at http://openmtbmap.org/ ?

grrrrr just went to buy this from wiggle and surprise surprise all sold out. Amazon now up to 268. Anywhere else have em cheap?

They have the standard version available however, without the heartrate kit and cadence senser. Will my exsiting garmin HRM strap from the 305 forerunner I just lost work with this does anyone know?

The 810 will 'come alive' <sigh> with proper mapping. If it's anything like the 705 (which I still have), the base map is rubbish and the machine only became useful with a proper map. I use Garmin's own, both Topo and City Nav maps. My 705 doesn't take the newer OS stuff so can't comment on that.

Suffice to say, I was pretty disappointed to find my new GPS was all but unusable until I'd installed some decent maps in it. Tosseurs...

Wiggle have the NOH units for £209. You could buy the cadence and HR straps for ~£50 then you have the lot...

would my exisitng garmin HRM work ? Not fussed about a cadence sensor

[quote=boblo said]The 810 will 'come alive' <sigh> with proper mapping. If it's anything like the 705 (which I still have), the base map is rubbish and the machine only became useful with a proper map. I use Garmin's own, both Topo and City Nav maps. My 705 doesn't take the newer OS stuff so can't comment on that.
Suffice to say, I was pretty disappointed to find my new GPS was all but unusable until I'd installed some decent maps in it. Tosseurs...

The 705 will take the OSM maps though and these are excellent.

I'm *pretty* sure it would... I think Garmin have only had two styles of HRM strap in the past ~8 years. I've had/got both and they work with my 705 (which uses the same strap as the 800). Have a look ay Handtech. They have pics of both types and sell the 800 for about £220 (and have stock).

My Garmin 'Bundle' arrived this morning from Wiggle. Unfortunately the 'Bundle' was less than advertised as there was no heart rate monitor or cadence sensor in the box :?. And so the customer service email trail begins, what a PIA 👿

The ioffer maps come sealed with a Garmin sticker, the sort that peels off to reveal a "void if opened" message underneath. If they are copies they are very good, perfectly functional ones.

are they actual OS maps though as in ones I would recognise as OS or some sort of freeware stuff?

The ioffermaps are definately NOT the talkytoaster maps. I'm using the talkytoaster ones on an old Garmin GPS62. The talkytoaster are good, but if you're used to OS maps they aren't as good.

Just so we are clear on this. 😉

The ioffer maps are OS maps. The same look, appearance, symbols, layout, etc as the paper maps.

My Garmin 'Bundle' arrived this morning from Wiggle. Unfortunately the 'Bundle' was less than advertised as there was no heart rate monitor or cadence sensor in the box :?. And so the customer service email trail begins, what a PIA

gutting, mine arrived yesterday (along with the 500 I bought) and it is the as-advertised bundle. Already installed my talkytoaster maps that I'd downloaded (free, a while ago) for my Etrex, and got the HRM and cadence meters synced (I think!).

Well Wiggle have just gone down in my estimation. Just had an email cancelling my order for the NOH bundle saying that there was an error in the description. Could have ordered from Amazon if they'd have told me sooner.

I was really looking forward to some post New Year GPS tinkering and then I received this

Due to an incorrect product description the Garmin NOH Edge 800 GPS Performance Bundle you ordered has been removed from our range and your order has unfortunately now been cancelled as per our Terms & Conditions.

Bah Humbug Wiggle
They have listed it as the Performance bundle with the HRM and cadence sensor not a stand alone unit.
What did someone say "too good to true...."

I've got myself so fired up over this that I am going buy one anyway.
What is the next best deal out there?

well ive ordered the bundle from amazon, but 2 week delivery

and one of those garmin maps from ioffer, so will see, gotta be worth a punt

Well Wiggle have just gone down in my estimation. Just had an email cancelling my order for the NOH bundle saying that there was an error in the description. Could have ordered from Amazon if they'd have told me sooner.

Was Amazon price matching the wiggle deal?

iOffer Maps are brilliant best £20 Ive spent

Was Amazon price matching the wiggle deal?

As far as I recall,yes, @ £209.99

iOffer Maps are brilliant best £20 Ive spent

I just got the Garmin Etrex 20 deal.

I'm assuming the iOffer 1:50 maps will do for that unit as well?

was it the 1:50 full UK you got Bigface0 0?

Ok so I have to put the maps onto a micro sd card (not via wire) before they show up on my 810?

you can transfer by a cable but it takes forever, and if its on the unit's memory it fills most of it (IIRC talkytoaster map is 500mb and 800 has 700mb memory?). It takes minutes to write to a micro SD card and the map sits on the card not slowing the device down.

Was Amazon price matching the wiggle deal?

not really - the amazon deal was genuine 😉 and not for a refurbished unit. Given Wiggle were selling refurbed 800s with mapping for £279, getting the performance bundle for £209 was always suspect.

I'm assuming the iOffer 1:50 maps will do for that unit as well?

if its a genuine Garmin map then no it won't, each will only work on one unit (ie. you'd have to buy a second ioffer map for the Etrex). If they are dubiously bootlegged, or repackaged open-source map, then yes they probably will.

Do let us know how you get on!

Amazon normally match the lowest online price, if wriggle were listing the performance bundle at that price Amazon could have matched it by accident.

Garmin have two methods of locking their maps, either to the SD card or to unit. If the ioffer is the same as the bundled maps they will be locked to the SD card and transferable between units.

Garmin have two methods of locking their maps, either to the SD card or to unit. If the ioffer is the same as the bundled maps they will be locked to the SD card and transferable between units.

hmmm. Buddy has an Edge 800 and a second Garmin, his SD-mounted genuine Garmin map wouldnt work in his second device or in my Etrex20. Is it possible to download a pre-installed map from a unit onto an SD card (ie. this is what my buddy did when I'd assumed it was a Garmin SD card?).

The download map is locked to a specific unit once it's installed. The map on the SD card is locked to that specific SD card, you can copy the map files but unless they are on the correct SD card they won't work. Each SD card and unit has a unique ID number so the maps will have that built into the file. Many years ago it was in plan text so you could open up the file in text editor and change the number so you could use it on a different card or you changed the ID of the SD card to match the original.
What's also annoying is that they ship the 1:50k maps on an SD cards just large enough to hold them so you can't put any other maps on the card.

The ioffer maps claim to be "unlocked" (unlike ones you buy from Garmin) so they are obviously dodgy (if the ridiculously low price wasn't enough of a giveaway). Might as well save yourself £20 and torrent them as they will be just as legit (plus you're not lining the pockets of some del-boy). Or, you know, buy them legally.

Ok, my situation is now resolved. Wiggle giving me a credit note for £30 and I keep the unit. Happy with that as I never needed the cadence sensor and the heart rate monitor would probably have spent most of its life in the box anyway. Happy New Year all. 😀

buy them legally.

riddoch, thanks for explanations.

My Amazon purchased unit turned up today, with everything as per advertised. HR monitor, cadence sensor and main units. I have bought a cheap 4GB Mini SD card and in the middle of downloading the free OSM maps as per this sites recommendation:

http://www.forgot.co.uk/edge-800/

I will only be using mine for road riding so dont need trail maps. I Prefer to use a watch for MTB as I dont need navigation....too busy looking at the trail in front, and even doing that I still go over the bars.. 🙂