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Just seen this on my daily planet x email. At first I thought it was a version of the whippet but it says It's not a Cross Country bike, it's an across ANY country bike. equipped with all the bikepacking mounts and frame features you need to explore exclusive backcountry destinations, self-supported with nothing holding you back.
They already have the vandal ti version of the scandal.
£1300 for a full ti bike with carbon fork is an impressive price point.
Anyone tempted?
Posted : 14/07/2021 9:15 am
Ti bootzipper?
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Posted : 14/07/2021 9:39 am
Ti bootzipper?
Titzipper?
Posted : 14/07/2021 9:55 am
Looks ace.
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:05 am
Bootizipper?
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:05 am
explore exclusive backcountry destinations
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:22 am
like the look of that, have been contemplating selling my fairlight secan for something more off road capable (rubbish rider) and was looking at a sonder broken road, but this may do the job...time for some pondering
Posted : 14/07/2021 10:54 am
It does look like the Whippet, but the geometry charts are quite different.
Tempting, but people here have said that SX ir rubbish (I have no experience), shame there isn't a GX option.
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:37 pm
Got the email, and I was tempted, but I already have a Big Dog and I don't think I need another bike 
Tempting, but people here have said that SX ir rubbish (I have no experience), shame there isn’t a GX option.
SX is rubbish. But £1300 for a titanium rolling chassis isn't that bad value?
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:44 pm
Whats with the retro geometry?
Give me Stooge or Jones geo and I'd have one in a heartbeat.
Same with the bootzipper, style is good but the geo is too old school.
Rigid bikes have moved on, these are a relic of the past.
Posted : 14/07/2021 12:56 pm
Old school geo for old school trails
Posted : 14/07/2021 1:14 pm
They should give it 26" wheels and canti brakes too then for the full 1993 experience
Posted : 14/07/2021 1:47 pm
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Rigid bikes have moved on, these are a relic of the past.
Go do a 7 day off road tour with some camping gear, on this 1993 on one bike and then do the same tour on a sick bike with rad angles and then when you realise why this has old skool angles you will understand why we all like this.
The only thing wrong with a mtb bike from 1993 (IMO) was it had the wrong size tyres!
The natural trails haven't changed!
If you want an extreme hardtail go rear the hello dave thread 
The world would be a boring place if companies only made one style of bike.
Posted : 14/07/2021 2:03 pm
I got 2.35” into my 1993 Kona Hahanna.
(OK, slicks - it’s a pub and railway station bike these days)
Posted : 14/07/2021 2:07 pm
@damascus lol I own a stooge, I've owned older 29ers with similar geo to this thing. I'd rather ride the stooge thanks, its been designed as a 29er rigid bike, not a roadie geo 26er with suspension fork removed and 29er wheels stuck on.
Many people happily ride to the ends of the earth on their Jones.
I suggest you try one on your next tour.
Posted : 14/07/2021 4:07 pm
Bootizipper
Yeah, they missed a trick there
Posted : 14/07/2021 4:13 pm
Re the Price point - its cheaper built than most TI frames. Is it too cheap? Do people really want a Ti frame with base level components on it?
Posted : 14/07/2021 4:32 pm
They really have a knack for polishing turds and selling them at turd prices.
Posted : 14/07/2021 6:41 pm
The geo isn't retro MTB at all - at least it's nothing like the 90s XC race-style bikes I used to ride. How high are those bars? Geo looks like it has more in common with one of these:
[img] https://media.4rgos.it/i/Argos/8685702_R_Z002A?w=750&h=440&qlt=70 [/img]
Posted : 14/07/2021 6:53 pm
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Did anyone buy one? Currently 10% off at £1169.99
Posted : 20/08/2021 7:06 pm
Did anyone buy one? Currently 10% off at £1169.99
Where did you see the 10% off?
* not in the market for this bike, just interested
Posted : 20/08/2021 8:01 pm
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10% off everything at the moment
Posted : 21/08/2021 9:02 am
10% off everything at the moment
Hmm. That must be a 'sign up for' thing then. I'm seeing £1,299.99 and no mention of a 10% off everything.
Posted : 21/08/2021 9:06 am
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@bonzodog just add to basket, automatically adds code
10% Off Everything Ends 23/08 (Excludes Flash Deals And Other Promotions
CODE SR82110
Posted : 21/08/2021 1:05 pm
Go do a 7 day off road tour with some camping gear, on this 1993 on one bike and then do the same tour on a sick bike with rad angles and then when you realise why this has old skool angles you will understand why we all like this.
I think that completely missed the point. For a start Sick didn't use anywhere near the same offset forks as Stooge.
They didn't win any multiday bike packing races either.
There's more than one way to make a bike handle nicely. It doesn't need to be via a short wheelbase and steep head angle anymore.
Posted : 21/08/2021 1:52 pm
Yep did exactly that, was contemplating for a while so the 10% was enough to pull the trigger. Build date is also 1 month sooner than on the website!
Posted : 23/08/2021 12:29 pm
At first I thought this was the On-One branded version of the Planet-X Titus-branded equivalent I bought a couple of years ago (which was their copy of the Sonder Broken Road Ti). But it's not, this On-One has quite different geometry: shorter WB and reach, steeper HA, and that headtube is quite short. Prefer the geometry on mine for intended use TBH:
Although for sub-£1300 that's quite a deal.
Posted : 23/08/2021 12:43 pm
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@wzzzz maybe you were right, looks like no one's buying this bike at £1299. Now selling this titanium bike at £1000
Posted : 16/10/2021 9:18 am
I like the way it weighs both 11.4 kg and 12.1 kg in the description
Posted : 16/10/2021 10:21 am
It's amazing that these are going for £1k now when it's so hard to buy new bikes anywhere else!
Posted : 16/10/2021 10:29 am
Personally I think that's a steal at a grand, don't understand why they aren't selling (if that's the case)..stick some tubeless tyres & Geoff loop bars on it and that's your bikepacking rig sorted.
Posted : 16/10/2021 1:14 pm
Yep, I agree, it does seem a bit hard to pass up
Posted : 16/10/2021 1:20 pm
Has anyone actually bought one? Are fhey any good?
Posted : 16/10/2021 1:21 pm
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Are we all just blinded by the fact its titanium and a grand and available?
If it was alliminium would we be as keen?
Its about the same weight as an alliminium frame.
I do like the look of the forks though.
Posted : 16/10/2021 1:29 pm
Is it really?!? You're right, I was blinded by the titanium. Is the frame listed separately somewhere, so you can know the weight?
Posted : 16/10/2021 1:32 pm
It is a ridiculously heavy bike, but I was hoping that would mostly be in the wheels and drivetrain
Posted : 16/10/2021 1:34 pm
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In my opinion it's hard and expensive to make a very good titanium frame.
So when companies sell cheap titanium frames they tend to be over engineered and therefore heavier than they should be so they don't crack, especially if they have a good warranty back up. This px just has a 2 year warranty.
This means they end up a similar weight to an alloy frame but usually a lot more expensive.
But titanium looks amazing raw.
A lot of the weight will be in the tyres, wheels, finishing kit etc. The frame in medium will probably be around 1800g give or take.
But this bike is a grand and available and in todays market that's unusual! If I didn't have a scandal I'd have one in a shot!
Posted : 16/10/2021 1:47 pm
I bought a rocky road bike. Size medium, with 2.1 tyres and carbon bar. 10.3kg on the scales.
Sadly I'm adding to the weight by adding a 2.8 rekon on the front (tubeless of course), 2.6 ikon on the back and changing the bars to alkpit confusus. It's to be an all out packing rig.
So far really impressed, though brakes really need an uplift.
Posted : 18/10/2021 11:24 pm
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Reduced again to £1039. Has anyone taken the plunge? Any feedback on this.
Posted : 14/11/2021 9:38 am
Might be helpful to someone...GuyKesTV reviews here:
Posted : 14/11/2021 3:45 pm
Is it possible to fit a full mudguard to the carbon fork?
Posted : 18/11/2021 2:45 pm
zippyk, Not if it is the same one used on the rigid Whippet, which I assume it is.
Posted : 18/11/2021 3:56 pm
Could do similar to my bodging with the Exotic fork on my Titus - created a fork 'bridge' from waste pipe (32mm I think), and used plastic P-clips on the legs. Been in use 8,000km+ on my gravelly bike and haven't needed tweaking once.
Posted : 18/11/2021 4:11 pm
It will be a straight gauge unbutted frame. So the same weight or more than aluminium and possibly a harsh ride [my Scandal is smoooooth]. And the process to make it is incredibly polluting. But it's shiny, so of course it's worth it.
Posted : 18/11/2021 10:35 pm
Any feedback on this.
Buy it with GX if you can. SX is really horrible.
Posted : 18/11/2021 11:26 pm
They should give it 26″ wheels and canti brakes too then for the full 1993 experience
totes couldn’t tell the diff its disgustan 
Posted : 19/11/2021 11:58 am
Surely everyone would take the Kona, it's full of class.
Posted : 19/11/2021 1:10 pm
1x chainsets and dinner-plate rear cassettes still and will always look stupid to me.
Posted : 19/11/2021 1:14 pm
Any up to date feedback by any owners? I'm hovering over the button as we speak.
It's going to be used as a glorified gravel bike .
Posted : 13/12/2021 7:26 pm
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